Hi there,

I bought my sammy from a guy who lifted it 6" sith Spring Over Axel  and maybe new shackles, because the front ones look long.......

But i noticed the leaf springs are flat , with no upward curve at the ends.......

Is that bad?

TYPICAL SAMMI SPRINGS. UNLESS YOU BUY AFTERMARKET ONES.


ROSS

As long as they don't curve down you should be fine.

Nope, they are good enough for me,

I haven't been let down yet by a samurai, and i hope i never will.

Incidently by next winter i will be fitting mine out with a fully fitted hydraulic plow in samurai size.....  Im figuring it will look silly enough to warrent a picture posted here.

Thanks
Chris

Something like this

Tim Hardy of Placerville Calif has wheeled with the best on the Rubicon and firmly believes in flat stock springs on SPOA rigs. Tims style of wheeling doesn't allow for high dollar builds or expensive after market bolt ons. He likes stripped down, light weight samuri. He has gone thru more than a few. When I met him a couple years ago I was in the middle of a Calmini bolt on frenzy. I thought he would be impressed with my SPOA shackle reverse, tube bumpers and other frivolous add ons. When asked what he thought of my rig, he said " rip all that crap off and put stock flat springs on it. Drive it off a big rock and roll it over, bust the windows out  ( they weigh too much ) put it back on all fours and start wheeling. But then this is from a guy who thinks a locker is welded gears. I left there almost ashamed of my shiney , teal green  88 Sam with all the Calmini stuff. I have since found middle ground where I'm comfortable. My point is, run what you got and don't worry about what others think of your rig.....so, run those flat springs.  By the way...this advice comes from a Zook Brother that bought Calmini's v6 Vitara and has 4 Sams in his driveway. One is real pretty...three are not...when I'm smiling...I'm wheeling or I'm under my rig, looking for that middle ground...

Some say that a slightly positively arched spring on a Sammy provides a better ride.  Do you want comfort when you wheel?

~Nate

My only real concern was that the steering linkage is very close to the underside of the spring, like 3/4 to 1".  If  sagging springs were a problem on spring over sammys then i was going to keep a closer eye on it.

Since then i have also noticed that the brake lines have been snipped loose from their mounting where the hard line connects to the flexible line.  SO i have that to worry me and i can stop worrying about sagging springs.....:-)

All SPOA's need longer brake lines. Lots of Zook venders can provide then. I recomend breaded lines, as they are more durable. Another problem with Sams is the way the front springs are mounted to the frame.  You should concider reversing the front mounts so that the front mount is fixed or solid and the rear mount swivels. I have Calmini's shackle reverse set up on two of my Sams. This allows your front tires to roll up and over obstacles and the front axle will not move rearward as it does with the stock set up. This greatly improves steering feel off road. Nice looking rig to start your build...Gary