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Offline Suzuki1.8

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2006 grand vitara
« on: September 20, 2005, 04:54:43 PM »
Well i found out some bad news today. A customer of mine wanted to put some wheels on a brand new vitara. So i was thinking our good old 5 on5.5 pattern cause its a suzuki. So i went there to check  it out cause there is no fitment guide out for them yet. Well i was shocked to find out its a 5x115. Starting looking at it closer it is a chevy exinoux.  I for one think its a sad day for suzuki. I am not a fan of the chevy exinoux at all.  SO happy trying to lift a front wheel drive suv with a +40 offset. We might as well starting building ford escapes and libertys if this is the trend.

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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2005, 06:08:46 AM »
Suzuki shares the same platform but it's not FWD. Also an Escape and a liberty are not even on the same page. Liberty may be unibody but it still has a real 4wd system JUST LIKE the new Suzuki.

Keep this in mind... XJ's, TJ's, and ZJ's all use a Unit hub bearing. Same one found on the Dodge Caravans and the like... Same 5x4.5" bolt pattern too. While the platform is shared the mechanicals are not. Suzuki is still a real (somewhat) 4wd vehicle even if it lost alot of it's rugged undertones.

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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2005, 06:29:35 AM »
last time i checked it had a aqd system sorta like an escape. Real four wheel drive wheel be a selectable transfercase with hi low and netrual. not just awd and low

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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2005, 08:57:14 AM »
last time i checked it had a aqd system sorta like an escape. Real four wheel drive wheel be a selectable transfercase with hi low and netrual. not just awd and low

My Mitsu Montero Sport has AWD, 4hi and 4 low, but no neutral.  I would definitly say that the system is real 4wd.  With the new Vit the only thing missing is 4 hi, but why do you really need 4 hi.  Plus the low on most Zuk's is pretty high already.
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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2005, 09:45:03 AM »
Real 4WD to me constitutes a "locked" center differential (perviously known as a transfer case). Most AWD systems (especially the electronically controlled ones) do not deliver equal force to front and rear axels when in 4WD (or AWD). If I read it correctly the '06 GV has a "lock" mode for 4WD that does provide this.

I prefer part time 4wd too, but that seems to be too much for folks to handle now a days.
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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2005, 11:48:26 AM »
This is right from the Suzuki ad for the new GV 06




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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2005, 01:57:34 PM »
right so does that mean that "4Hi" is using the limited slip, but "4Hi lock" is "locked" (and not limited slip?
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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2005, 02:16:16 PM »
thats right. Also the liberty is better than the new DV as it still has a solid rear axle the GV is IRS!  >:( Also its a unibody. If the frame is welded to the body its the same as a unibody.
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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2005, 05:10:46 PM »
guys everything your showing here is a chevy suv. all i'm saying is i miss the days when suzuki made there own and made the tracker for chevys. Now its chevy making them for suzuki. might as well shop around for a used chevy equinoux and save money

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Re: 2006 grand vitara
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2005, 06:27:53 AM »
Ok, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION: Suzuki has REAL 4wd in their Theta based vehicle, Chevy/Saturn DO NOT. Suzuki is building their own version in JAPAN with their own ENGINE,TRANY,T-CASE,DIFFS... It's like the Porche and VW bug, same platform but worlds apart.

SO GM's version is all CAR (fwd transmission with a rear output-NO LO RANGE, NO LOCK) Suzuki is using the mechanicals from the XL7 with a NEW t-case that has fulltime 4wd, STILL 100% SUV even with the IS setup (how many are chucking the IFS for a solid axle? It's even easier in the rear!).

Should also note the new GV comes with 29" tall tires, XL7 has 27" tall tires. GV is better off-road than the XL7 is and appears to be more fuel effecient even though there weighing in about the same with the same drivetrain (aerodynamics).
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