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Offline BIG DOG

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I don't feel stable.
« on: February 03, 2010, 04:15:19 AM »
I have a 95 geo tracker 5spd my tire pressures are 20 lbs on jeep rims
Does anyone know what the specs for a good alignment  are. I'm lifted 2" suspension 3" body with 31"BFG mudterrains. I have had it done to stock specs and it seems pretty good on the dry pavement.But you get a little slush or some snow down the dang thing is skitish tracks left right all over the place.Doesn't really get out of shape but it sure feels like it might. I have adjustable camber bolts also but I'm pretty sure they are in stock position now.I tried putting them in like the posts show( moving the top of the spindle in tight) but my dang tires were wearing quite bad.A buddy of mine has the exact same setup lift, tires and his drives like a full size truck it's so stable.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks!

I should add I have a sway bar and manual steering.........Maybe this is just the way they are?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2010, 04:50:13 AM by BIG DOG »
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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 08:00:44 AM »
Just from you picture, it looks out of alignment to me. Take it to a different shop and have them set the toe and the camber to factory specs. I think you'll be fine after that. If you're too far toe in or out, they'll "dart" around when the surface changes from grip to slip. A quick way to check this other than measuring is to have someone drive the car straight back and forth on some pavement or concrete. Watch the front end, if the suspension moves up when moving forward you are too much toe in. If it dips down, you are too much toe out... generally speaking.

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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 08:06:19 AM »
Nah, it shouldn't do that. Sounds like they didn't get the alignment right. What type of lift did you do, coils, spacers ?  If you put new coils in it and didn't give them a chance to settle before your alignment, the alignment is probably off again. If you just used coil spacers that wouldn't have any effect. It could also be your steering box is too tight/loose. Did they check that during the alignment? A good shop would, and they would also test drive before and after alignment. Sometimes with a lifted vehicle, you'll have to find an alignment shop that has experience with them to get it done correctly. It's not just a matter of getting the " specs" to stock, it's driveability, and only a tech with lifted vehicle experience can get it right.
It could also be wheel bearings, worn bushings in the control arms, tie rods worn, ball joints worn. Check all these areas for loose or worn parts.
I have near 4" of suspension lift, modified control arms, no sway bar, and 32x11.5 tires and mine drives steady and straight. It's all in the alignment. Ask around in your area to find a shop that has lifted vehicle experience.
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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 08:08:16 AM »
 ;) PS, with a title to your thread like " I don't feel stable" I was tempted to add : try Paxil. :P
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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 09:26:56 AM »
No the lift was done long before the alignment and I just went through a MVI he looked the front over good and it feels tight on dry pavement.I thought we put the camber bolts in so we could set it with the spring spacers but I'm sure mine is straight in there .I'll try the pavement thing see how it reacts.
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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 03:33:09 AM »
Have you got strut spacers and longer shocks? if you haven't then the suspension could be pretty much maxxed out and it will feel unstable.
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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 05:48:54 AM »
No I have pretty much done it to the specs on these forums.CV rear shocks,stut mount flipped on front,spring spacer for 2" lift and 3" body lift with 3/16 square tubing,camber bolts.
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Re: I don't feel stable.
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 09:35:51 AM »
Also check your steering componets (the alignment shop should of done this prior to aligning it). My old kick did this same thing due to worn steering componets.

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