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Offline fordguy79

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need some ansers
« on: August 03, 2009, 08:22:32 PM »
i have an 87 samurai with a 6.5 t-case stock axle gears i found some 5.12 gears out of track/kick fronts
will the fit my axles and is that to much gears for driving every day?
87sami 32" bfg mt 6.5:1 w/reverse S shifter  1.6 16v sold and missed

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Re: need some ansers
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 09:02:01 PM »
1. Yes the fronts will.  The best way to install them is to swap the ring and pinions  It's a stronger reliable swap compared to using the aluminum housings and weaker spider gear assembly.

http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=4215
http://www.acksfaq.com/difcans.htm

The above links were found using a search for ring and pinion at ack's FAQ (see link in signature).

2.  Probably not.  According to the Samurai gear calculator at acks FAQ, 6.5 tcase (high ratio, i believe, is 1.691) + 5.12 R&P + 33" tires in fifth gear (pre-'88) and 3800 RPM would result in a speed of 54 MPH.  At 4000 you would get 57 MPH.  I assumed 33" tires but you can go to the calculator and plug in your specific tire and engine values.  

BTW, the value below the low range output in the calculator's t-case gear choices is the high range output ratio for the set.  Thus 6.090 and 1.747 would be pairs.

I hope that this helps!
« Last Edit: August 04, 2009, 05:56:09 AM by ack »
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Re: need some ansers
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 10:31:48 PM »
that help a lot   has any one run this combo  i run 33 12.5 swamper ssr's
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Re: need some ansers
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2009, 05:53:38 AM »
I forgot something semi-important:

Bigger tires = more weight = less engine performance.

Now, let the guys who have been there and done that comment!
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 01:43:11 PM »
Do you like doing over 60 on a regular basis?  If so I wouldn't use the 5.12's with the 6.5.  I run the same combo on my SJ-410.  It works great for power and running around, but with the 4 speed at 53mph I am turning just over 5K on the tack.  With a 5 speed you should be able to run 60 or so, but that will top it out.  In low range I max out about 14 mph in 4th gear.  With a 5 speed you should easily be able to get up to 17 or so before hitting the red-line.

But if you don't plan on going over 55 when cruising around they will give you plenty of power.  I only have the 970cc and am pushing 45hp instead of the 65 of the stock Samurai but can motor around without issue with 33x12.5 Pro-Comp ExMTRs.  Just not enough RPM's left at the top end for road use.

I also recommend installing a traction bar if you haven't already.  That will give you a bit more power for driving around as your springs will not be able to soak it up.  Kahn Sultan recently wrote a thread with some good shots of the finished product.
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