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clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« on: April 25, 2009, 12:12:32 PM »
So a few weeks ago my 90 track got real hard to push into gear.
I adjust the cable down by the tranny and it helped for a few days.
Last night it got so hard to put it in gear when it did go and I had the clutch pedal to the floor the truck still rolled like I had the clutch out 1/2 way.
Now I got under and looked at it today, when my son pushes down on the clutch the fork on the cable maybe moves one inch.
I have about 1 1/2" of play on the fork and even adjusted that down, still, the fork moves only about 1".
I checked the cable and looked for obvious cracks/breaks/bends and all outside looks good.
hate to throw down $500 for a clutch job when it is only a $20 cable.
I do have the slight whining noise when going down the road and when I push in the clutch it goes away, but only a small noise.
I replaced the fluids in tran/transfer case and both axles too.
It was sitting for awhile and I just did the top end so i have no record of any other engine work.
Does not seem to be any rear main seal oil leakage either.
KB
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Offline Zukipilot

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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2009, 12:47:11 PM »
Have someone depress the clutch while you are looking at the cable (under the hood where it loops around from the fire wall and in front of the motor. It is probably kinking and needs to be replaced, if it's not, probably time for a clutch.

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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2009, 01:24:52 PM »
I looked at that earlier I didn't see anything.
It's just weird how I adjsuted it, then it was fine for a week now gone again
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Offline sir lance

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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 06:08:59 PM »
the last lime i had a problem like that, one of the springs in the clutch disk came apart and fell between the pressure plate and the disk itself, even when you depressed the clutch the spring would stop it from doing so.....

but ya, every tracker/sidekick Ive owned and worked on, have needed a new cable at one point or another. pretty common.....

does your pedal feel real stiff?
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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 06:44:57 PM »
I got a cable today, it still has about zero feel.
 and yeah it looks like something internal.
Guess I have to tear it apart tomorrow

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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 11:04:25 PM »
Fingers on the pressure plate are worn out, my guess.
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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 06:48:41 AM »
Check the linkage under the dash. Mine has literally torn apart twice now. Yhe design is weak and the metal is too. The constant movement and pressure just causes it to come apart. Mine has the hydrualic clutch but the linkage is probably similar. The pedal would push all the way down but the linkage would just give way about 1/2 way down.
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Re: clutch cable or clutch or pilot bearing
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 09:21:52 AM »
I did notice that the little swivel end bearing on the old cable was a little smashed, but otherwise inspection yielded no tolerance or manufacturer related defects. :laugh: