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Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.

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Hi Everyone, First time poster here.   So Last week I bought a '88 Samurai lifted with Rocky Road spoa and lifted YJ springs 7" lift.  Its sitting on stock tiires right now and looks pretty funny.  I am trying to get some advice on what type of gearing i should do.  I have found a pretty good deal on a set of 5.38 R&P gears.  I will most likely be using the sami off road/ crawling, but would still like to have it go on the highway.  As of right now i am looking at those 5.38's and 33" MT tires.  any thought on this set up with everything else stock untill i get the money to do more mods.
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Offline WorkInProgress91

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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 04:27:45 PM »
T-case gears reduce high range as well, so it kind of depends on how good of a deal you've found on the 5.38's
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 04:42:01 PM »
I'm a big fan of T-Case gears, having done both.  But it is hard to turn down a good deal on some 5.38 gears.  Make sure they are not gears from a Tracker, or you will need to swap in a hybrid rear end.
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 05:05:59 PM »
If your into crawling you will hate life if you dont have T-case gears, the clutch will get nice and hot!
T-case gears will gear your low range down as well as your high range.

6.5 gears are perfect for 33's+ and there under 500 bucks too.


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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 10:46:21 PM »
T-case gears all the way.  They make it so you can crawl easily up things that would smoke your clutch without them.
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 11:28:38 PM »
As someone who went with the diff gears first DO YOUR T-CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
doesn't matter how low you go if it's still only 2.1:1 in t-case.
unless you are getting the 5.38's for less than 200 dollars it will cost less to just get the t-case gears.


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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2008, 12:08:41 PM »
thanks everyone, looks like its the T-case gears and then later on down the road i'll do the axles as well.
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2008, 12:28:21 PM »
if I go with 6.5 t-case and leave the rest stock for a bit will i be fine running on 33's or will i be breaking shit left and right.
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2008, 12:43:27 PM »
It depends on your driving style.  33's are generally considered the breaking point for the Sammy axles.  Some people wheel fine, other people break things left and right.  But at least now you have some options instead of just upgrading to Toyota.  Calmini has the heavy duty rear axles and there are the Chromoly front axles similar to the ones Trail Tough has on sale right now.

On a side note, they have sold out of axles at Trail Tough, but if you call you can still get the sale price when the next shipment comes in June.  :)
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2008, 02:10:56 PM »
less skinny pedal makes stuff last a lot longer.
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2008, 10:05:57 AM »
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less skinny pedal makes stuff last a lot longer.


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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2008, 05:35:20 PM »
if (when) I build another zuk Ill be doing the T-case first




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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 08:48:09 AM »
With the 6.5:1 case gears ya might want to think about upgrading the transfer case mounts. Tis alot of stress from torque created there and have seen many a mount get torn from the gear sets.
Just a thought... Trail Gear Bomb Proof mounts look tough.
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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 10:41:41 AM »
Ok something totaly diferent, my buddy is redoing his jeep and has this stuff for sale.  He would probably give me a better deal than the prices listed. Any thought on if the Axles would work.

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Re: Gearing T-Case Vs R&P Gearing...which is most bang for the buck.
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 08:19:19 PM »
If your going to all the trouble of swapping axles, don't do a dana 30. they just aren't worth the work.

As for the previous ? I would go with 5.12 R&P gears out of the front of a sidekick (96-98 for the rear and 89-95 for the front). Take the hole third member and bolt it right in. This is what I did with my budget sami and never had the problems people claim with this set up. Paid about $100. for a set at the self serve junk yard, which left money for gas to go wheel'n.
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