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Offline ryano200

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5.13's or 4.62's
« on: January 31, 2005, 03:26:24 PM »
My first question is:  If I were to install 5.13's or 4.62's in my 88 1/2 sammy, what else do I need besides gears in order to do this?  (ie. hybrid housings, etc.)  or will they fit right in with my stock sammy stuff.  Second question is:  I am running 33's with about 80% of my driving on road.  I was thinking of running Calminis 5.14's or 6.5's.  What is the better choice and with what ring and pinions?  Thank you for your input.  I am new to the zook thing, but I am loving it!
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2005, 04:05:39 PM »
I have 5.12s in mine, with 31s....a little too low.
Your 33s would be perfect with the 5.12s though!
Some of the aftermarket vendors make a spacer, and can kit to put the Track/Kick front gears in the sammy axles.
I did mine without it though...there are redneck fab ways around it.
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 04:20:28 PM »
First off, go and look at your drain plug on your transmission and let me know what it looks like.
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 04:35:28 PM »
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First off, go and look at your drain plug on your transmission and let me know what it looks like.


Is this a way to tell if you have the .795 or .865 5th gear ?
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 04:37:47 PM »
Yep.
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 04:47:53 PM »
At a guess early .795  would have a external type nut and .865 would be the 3/8 drive captive type bung ??
Am I right ??  :-/
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 04:51:43 PM »
Yep.
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 04:57:49 PM »
Ya learn something new every day here  8)

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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2005, 04:58:42 PM »
Yep.  ;D
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2005, 11:00:49 PM »
why do u need to reduce ur running gears if u go to a 6.5:1 t-case gears on calminis web site it clearly tells u that it will reduce the high rang running gear perfect for 32 to 33" tires. it says a true 20.2% high range reduction.

                   
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2005, 11:21:03 PM »
 Ã‚   By changing your ring and pinions your really getting your truck back to stock then you use t-case gears to improve your wheeling ;D

     it also has something to do with stress on your driveline and how it distributes it
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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2005, 12:39:43 AM »
R&P means ring and pinion

if u reduce ur t-case gear to 6.5 it is a 20.2% 2 hi reduction. this means  

ring gear size X 20.2% = total + R&P size = running gear size/reduced R&P.

most t-cases don't reduce 2 hi and 4 hi but a sammi case does. say if u have a

3.73 X 20.2% =2.8104058 + 3.73 = 6.5404058.

the biggest R&P offered for a tracker is 5.89. with the 20.2% reduction in 2 hi opperation it is like running a 6.54 R&P                  



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Re: 5.13's or 4.62's
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2005, 01:58:25 AM »
The plug in my tranny has a 3/8's square drive hole to remove it.
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