The Rocky Road Outfitters Sammy lift is a
bit on the soft side, but I don't think the
35s are going to fit under there without
some major lift or hacking, and handeling
goes out the window when you get high
and soft rate springs. So you have to make
a descison, it's hard to have both, but with
the right selection of springs you should be
able to get closer to both, but it will be a
compromise between the two.

Some of the Sammy guys can steer you in
a closer choice than I can, but I drove a Sammy
with tall tires and long springs, felt like driving
a slinkey   

WIld

i have and spoa, a shackledrop, and a 2in block and i clear my 33's with no prob. there is a lil rub on full steer but thats aboout it no rub while drive on on full flex. im sure i could fit 35s with a lil bit of trimming.

Ok… Changed my mind. Now going with 33 in. Swampers. Would a 6 inch lift clear them well enough? On the Rock Road website they say it clears 31 and 32 inch tires easily, and the 8 inch lift easily clears 33’s and most 35’s. Another thing to take into account is that the 33 in. Swampers are very large 33’s – almost 34’s.

And about the Rocky Road Sammy lift – are these the best ones to go for or are there other lift choices I should consider, what do you guys know about them? (A coil system is the best type to go for isn’t it, in terms of handling performance on-road?) Like wildgoody said, I don’t want my springs to high and soft, or else it will be like driving a slinky! And this Sammy will be daily driven too.

Also, I found a pic in this website somewhere and the guy who owns it has exactly the same tires as me (33 in. SSR Swampers). What size lift do you think it is? Because this is basically what size I’m looking for, maybe just a tad lower.

Ok… Changed my mind. Now going with 33 in. Swampers. Would a 6 inch lift clear them well enough? On the Rock Road website they say it clears 31 and 32 inch tires easily, and the 8 inch lift easily clears 33’s and most 35’s. Another thing to take into account is that the 33 in. Swampers are very large 33’s – almost 34’s.

And about the Rocky Road Sammy lift – are these the best ones to go for or are there other lift choices I should consider, what do you guys know about them? (A coil system is the best type to go for isn’t it, in terms of handling performance on-road?) Like wildgoody said, I don’t want my springs to high and soft, or else it will be like driving a slinky! And this Sammy will be daily driven too.

Also, I found a pic in this website somewhere and the guy who owns it has exactly the same tires as me (33 in. SSR Swampers). What size lift do you think it is? Because this is basically what size I’m looking for, maybe just a tad lower.

Wow, I haven't seen Dewey in a long time.  As Far as I remember he ran 3" lift springs that were run spring over.  I ran the same set up on my sammy and it had 35x14.50 boggers on it when it was taken from me.  Plenty of lift, but compared to the ride of my sidekick, stiff is an understatement.
Brian

  For running 33's, the Trail Tough YJ kit was made for them. Gives you plenty of flex and clearance with not so squishy feeling on the road.  I run this setup for last few years with 33 claws and flexes as much as I need offroad and drives smoothly on the road.

who else has a yj leaf lift kit?  i have one and it clears my 33 inch baja claws by a lot.  it is almost as tall as my friends jeep on 37" TSL's.  I am thinking i have close to nine inches of lift in the rear, but I am not done with the front. 

What I am looking for is a lift capable of clearing my 33’s that has good off-road capability, and most importantly handles well on-road (mainly highway concerns). I would not consider myself a hardcore off-roader (don’t get me wrong, I love off-roading and get out there as often as I can. I’m just not hardcore, if you know what I mean ). So I don't need to be setting my daily driven Sammy with a ‘missing link’ suspension set that has 40" of wheel travel – extreme travel suspensions have their tradeoffs when it comes to on-highway handling and performance. I don’t care how much articulation my ride gets, I’m not building a flex monster. I once drove a friend’s Samurai with tall, flexy suspension and it felt tippy and out of control. I would have to take corners reasonably slowly, and at times I felt uncomfortable driving it.

With that said, what do you guys believe will give me the best performance considering my circumstances? Right now, I’m tossing up between the Trail Tough YJ kit, the JP-Eater YJ Suspension system (rocky road), and a coil setup.

The YJ springs are supposed to give you great ride quality, they are probably your best bet.  There are a couple of write-ups and they look great.  You might also just look at doing a RUF conversion and running CJ springs in the rear, if you don't want to do the full YJ spring swap.  Springs are a lot simpler then coils on the engineering.

I'm running rear springs up front with a spring over lift and don't have any problems clearing the 33's.  I cut up into my fenders quite a bit though, taking all of outside arch out of my rear fenders and most of it out of my front.  Sliding the front axel forward took care of the problem with rubbing on the back of the fender well.  Since I run an SJ-410 my springs are 1.5" more inboard, so I don't have to worry about rubbing up against my springs. 

I have to say though, putting the longer springs up front and swapping to the longer shocks made a world of difference in driveability.  It's like a completely different vehicle, especially on the back roads.  It used to be if I had air in my tires I had to slow down for every bump, now it just glides along.  I would probably see an equal improvement if I modded the rear of my SJ, but I like knowing my suspension won't unload on a side hill.

One thing to remember though, with the larger tires make sure you put a traction bar in the rear. I s-curved a set of springs driving out of a Rimrock in 2wd (short story, I broke the front end).  I also sheared a transfercase mount (broke the other two) and almost toasted a drive line, you put a lot of stress back there with the large tires and low gears.

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By all means stay away from RRO-very bad servive and poor product quality-don't believe me ,ust go ahead and order your kit and you'll receive a box of cluncking metal packaged like you just bought your lift kit from the scrape metal yard. To top it off the service is terrible. I speak from experience and if you don't belivee me or think I'm just out to flame ask around or check all the boards,you'll find that what I say is the plain honest truth.

That’s really interesting, quite funny actually. I guess you just can’t trust what manufacturers have to say about themselves these days; even when they’re making claims like these:

- “Don't make a purchase you'll ever regret, get your Samurai suspension from Rocky Road, THE Samurai suspension experts!�

- “Proving once again that the Rocky Road Coil suspension is 2nd to none in the industry!�

- “This is the finest Wrangler Spring Conversion for the Samurai front on the market and is not like anything else being offered for the Samurai.�

- “Rocky Road JP-Eater® kit offers all these superior features for a price tag at close to $100 less than our competitors and they don't even include new Ubolts which are absolutely necessary! If you look at our competitors prices on the YJ/SPOA combo kit, we're well over $200 less!!! We don't want to make them cry..... but it just might happen.�

- “What separates our Samurai coil kit from any other on the market? Besides all the extra mandatory items included in the Rocky Road kit but not in the others, besides the better pricing, besides the lifetime guarantee of a well established shop, besides all that.... reasonable turnaround times on shipping. One other shop we know of making a coil kit in the past has forced their customers and suppliers to wait up to and OVER a year from the time of payment to ship kits! Most of our kits ship within a couple weeks.�

...They seem to think alot of themselves.

As long as you CONFIRM RRO has the kit in stock you should be fine. It is a good kit. I have a similar suspension and had the 14" (8" lift?) and found it higher then I cared for. I decided to lower it so I can get it through inspection so I cut a few inches off the coils. I am not sure how much lift I have now but its just slightly taller then my friends with a SPOA and 32's (I currently have 34's). I opened up the wheelwells (virtual lift) which made alot more room for bigger tires. It now handles 100% better on the street with the shorter coils. While your at it I would recommend toyota axles, its alot of work to redo if you decide later on to install them