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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: legionnair on August 25, 2005, 09:42:51 PM
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hey I purchase a calmini 3' lift kit for my sidekick
and the passanger rear spring is collapsed and is about 3 to 4 inches shorter than the other one. I talked to calmini and sent them pics but they said no warrenty
can you guys suggest a possible set of springs from a different vechicle . no problem if I have to change the saddles for the springs.
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You got to be kidding me, no
warantee on a collapsed spring
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That's just wrong, I'm sorry
Here's what you can do to get
it fixed cheep, this is how I built
my lift, the one I built before Calmini
offered a lift for the Track/Kicks
Get the stock springs, I would suggest
using both of them, and make or have
made a 3" spacer that slips inside of the
springs, only needs to slip in about 2" and
the other part sticks out of the spring 3"
This gives you a 3" lift and almost a stock ride
If you want a little more spring, get a rear set
from a 4 door, as they have a little more rate
Hope this helps
Wild
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XJ front springs or TJ front/rear springs might fit the bill.
Spidertrax also sells springs in various rates, so you can get exactly the springrate that you want.
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You know, we're not supposed to do any "vendor bashing", but geez, this kind of thing really just makes you wonder what has happened to the idea of treating each other as we would like to be treated.
Biting my tongue...
Biting my tongue...
Biting my tongue...
Biting my tongue...
Biting my tongue...
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thanks guys
my friend did the coil spacers you get the lift but no articulation
I think I will look at the jeep springs or spidertax thanks for the info
sorry about the bashing did not mean it like that other than that it is a great kit
and total trans form the zuki
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I am kinda' shocked that Calmini wouldn't replace the spring. That doesn't sound consistent with the 'terms of sale' on their web page: "CALMINI Products, Inc. guarantees that all of its parts are of the finest quality and free from manufacturing defects. "
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Of course it also depends on how it collapsed... What were you doing when it went?
As for rear springs, you might want to check Ford Ranger/Exlplorer/Bronco 2 front coils. They might be real close...
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Legionnair
I spoke with Spencer about your situation and explained to him that we have received no email with pictures regarding this sagging spring issue. He had also mentioned that you did not know who you spoke with here or when the call was initially made. He spoke on your behalf and I explained that all you had to do was call and and email the pictures and we would certainly take care of you. This was approximately 3-4 days ago and I have received no calls or emails regarding this issue. Please call the sales office to help clear up any issue that there might be. We are trying to make sure that this story is presented in a clear manner. Awaiting your call
Best Regards
David Kampa
CALMINI Sales
800.345.3305
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Legionaire
I would recommend following up with Calmini, sounds like you guys might have just had a communications problem.
As far as vendor bashing.......I didn't see any on this thread.
Zag
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And here we go AGAIN >:(
Once again certain members of this forum JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS :'( - you know who you are. Shame on you.
More comments to post, must noooot poooost: Biting tongue :-X
Biting tongue :-X
Biting tongue :-X
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Whoa
Keep things in context....I've seen no untoward comments, no reason to bite ones tongue.
- Legionair has a spring problem, asked for alternate solutions
- Few guys expressed disappointment that part wasn't warrantied
- One pointed out depending on what he was doing, might be the problem
- Vendor comes on and asks why information has not been recieved
- legionair and vendor are dealing with it
No bashing I have seen, little bit of tongue biting, a little disappointment, but no problems.
Let the customer and the vendor take it from here, legionair can alwayys advise if a satisfactory solution does or doesn't happen. Vendor can give his response.
But so far no excitement...just the way I like it.
Zag
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At least Calmini has posted a decent reply for a solution to his problem. All they need is an email with a pic and it will be replaced. That seems more than fair to me.
Bill
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... I talked to calmini and sent them pics but they said no warrenty ...
probably just a case of a mail being lost ... good luck and it sounds like it was a case of a bad spring so hopefully you'll get the warranty replacement.
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Of course it also depends on how it collapsed... What were you doing when it went?
As for rear springs, you might want to check Ford Ranger/Exlplorer/Bronco 2 front coils. They might be real close...
Spring rate would be way off... I think whitfield is using these in the front of his rig... and I remember seeing that they're around 400lb/in or however they're measured, compared to the 150lb/in that a stock rear coil is.
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hey I have talk to david from calmini and I have to go through the parts supplier
whom I order it from that is why there might be the problem.
Also if the warrenty does not happen he said I could possibly order one spring( last case )
I will try to stick with the warrenty end for now
I will keep you guys posted
Thanks for all the help
Again I was not bashing calmini the kit is great and I am impressed with david's concern
over my problem
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Of course it also depends on how it collapsed... What were you doing when it went?
As for rear springs, you might want to check Ford Ranger/Exlplorer/Bronco 2 front coils. They might be real close...
Spring rate would be way off... I think whitfield is using these in the front of his rig... and I remember seeing that they're around 400lb/in or however they're measured, compared to the 150lb/in that a stock rear coil is.
Realredwagon is running explorer coils on his rig... not sure anymore which end he's running them on, though...
Legionnair: what were you doing when the spring collapsed? Did it drop as soon as you put the truck's weight on it, did it drop while traversing a speed bump at the mall or were you out in the woods when it happened?
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Seriosly, what the hell did you do when you collapsed the coil? Please tell, I must know! :o I am running the wrong shocks (flatens the coils to solid) and on an over weight kick (3500lbs) and I have had no problems at all.
Mike
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I was just running through a small trail in the woods not even in 4x4
and articulated a little and when I came back out i heard a bang as the spring slipped
back on to the saddle
first it was like 4 inches shorter so if you articulated it would come right out
then I was in the woods and it fell out so i used my winch an tied it to a tree and stretched
it now it is only 2 inches shorter it isn't falling out and it has been a month
but it still plauges me ???
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I was just running through a small trail in the woods not even in 4x4
and articulated a little and when I came back out i heard a bang as the spring slipped
back on to the saddle
first it was like 4 inches shorter so if you articulated it would come right out
then I was in the woods and it fell out so i used my winch an tied it to a tree and stretched
it now it is only 2 inches shorter it isn't falling out and it has been a month
but it still plauges me ???
Calmini shocks?
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yes the calmini rear shocks
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Did you extend the bumpstops or leave them stock?
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I left the bump stops stock
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That might have contributed to the problem. Doesn't the Calmini kit include bumpstop extensions?
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That might have contributed to the problem. Doesn't the Calmini kit include bumpstop extensions?
Even if it does ( I dont think so) I doubt it would be the problem. Mabey he just really got a bum coil. :-\
Mike
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I reread the parts descriptions on Calmini's site and the 2" kit says it includes rear bump stop extensions, but the 3" kit doesn't mention them. It does sound like a bad spring for sure.
I wonder why the 2" kit includes the extensions(you can even see them in the pic)and the 3" kit doesn't(not even in the pic) :-\ ???
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because the 2 is just a lift it isnt made for big articulation
the 3 is made for the articulation
and I have looked over the parts list for the kit no mention
of anything to do with the bump stops
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OK not trying to state something crazy but was one side on the front realy hard to get the strut attached? and/or does the front ride realy stiff?
(thinking front spring in rear on one side :-\)
Zig
If possible count the # of coils on each spring in rear, does it match?
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that is crazy first of all they are different sizes and lengths
and I am not that stupid
I know its the temping of the spring was not done right
because the bottom of the spring where it sits on the saddle is starting to flare out
Anyways I bought a spring from calmini and I am going to send the other one back and they said they would refund me the money
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I can confirm that the 3" kit doesn't extend the bump stops.
Glad to hear that Calmini is sending legionnair a new spring!
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that is crazy first of all they are different sizes and lengths
and I am not that stupid
I know its the temping of the spring was not done right
because the bottom of the spring where it sits on the saddle is starting to flare out
Anyways I bought a spring from calmini and I am going to send the other one back and they said they would refund me the money
No offence intended, I have seen crazier happen with an install. Holy $^&*, it flared out in the cup :o Good to hear it is taken care of :)
Zig