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Title: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: robozuki on August 22, 2005, 05:22:33 PM
Since there doesn't seem to be any swing-out tire carrier bumpers for the 4-door sidekick, I was wondering if any of you 4-door owners came up with any mounting points for your spare tire?  Obviously roof rack or inside behind the rear seats would be the 2 easy places.  Has anyone tried to mount it on the back door using a bracket that lifts it high enough to clear the bumper?  Canthe back door take the weight of a 31" or 33"?
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: HotRod on August 22, 2005, 09:46:53 PM
Well, From what I know and will be doing later is to modify the stock carrier to fit.
"say what " you say?
THis is what a friend did to his.
He cut off just the part that holds the wheel.
Placed it on his bigger wheel.
Set the spare tire on the bumper and rewelded it back together.
This way some of the wieght is resting on the bumper.
(his is a 2dr covertable)
He also said he hasn't had a problem with it.
BTW. Make sure the rubber tire stops (on the door)are tight against the tire so it doesn't wobble and bend the tailgate.
They may need to be cut shorter tho.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: HotRod on August 22, 2005, 09:53:48 PM
Kind've like so
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/spare%20tire%20carrier.jpg)
Hope this helps alittle
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: robozuki on August 23, 2005, 12:09:35 AM
ahhh. Yes, much simpler than a custom bumper.  A jeep-driving friend of mine said I should just put wheel spacers on there so that it clears (and hangs behind) the bumper.  Ridiculous.

Modifying the mount though...seems simple enough.  I may decide to go with the cheaper tube bumper then, and keep it mounted to the door.

Perhaps I shoule add some kind of plate on the inside of the door as a brace...
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Uncivilized on August 23, 2005, 03:58:42 AM
A jeep-driving friend of mine said I should just put wheel spacers on there so that it clears (and hangs behind) the bumper.  Ridiculous.
Friend don't let friends drive Jeeps.  ;D
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: echojeff on August 23, 2005, 05:34:17 AM
Here is a link to a home made swingaway bumper/hitch/spare tire ect that Heather's 4dr has.
http://www.granitepath.com/~kd7hcg/pictures/rearbumper/index.htm
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: troyshere on August 23, 2005, 07:38:14 AM
Look at this.  It fits a 5 on 5 1/2 lug pattern so it will bolt right on a sidekick.

(http://izook.com/reviews/dossparetire/images/7311485.jpg)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=7993915415&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

here is an Izook review

http://izook.com/reviews/dossparetire/dossparetire.htm
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Bobzooki on August 23, 2005, 09:23:45 AM
FYI:  I had a 31 on my back gate, when I had no bumper.  The weight of the tire BROKE THE WELD on the stock tire carrier.  I would not recommend any solution that includes the stock tire carrier.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: hcgalvin on August 23, 2005, 11:55:58 AM
FYI:  I had a 31 on my back gate, when I had no bumper.  The weight of the tire BROKE THE WELD on the stock tire carrier.  I would not recommend any solution that includes the stock tire carrier.

+1

Also, when we hard a 31 on our tire carrier, it weakened the hinges on the back door.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Zukipilot on August 23, 2005, 12:04:36 PM
I have been running my 33 on the stock mount for years with no trouble. I think mine has held up good because my 33x12.50 and a 15x10 rim with 4" BS pulls the rubber tight against the door keeping it moving at all when tightned down.

Were your 31's spaced away from the door or pulled tight agains it?

Zig
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Bobzooki on August 23, 2005, 02:14:21 PM
Were your 31's spaced away from the door or pulled tight agains it?

As I recall it wasn't tight against the door.  Once the weld broke, it DEFINITELY wasn't tight against the door.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: derekj on August 23, 2005, 10:31:17 PM
here's what i did to mine. i drilled out the spot welds and moved the carrier up 1" and bolted it back together and welded the crap out of it. i welded angle iron onto the tire mounting part to strengthen it and added the small piece at the top. so far so good.

derek

(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/tire 1.JPG)
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/tire 2.JPG)
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/tire 3.JPG)
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Deathrunner on November 17, 2005, 03:47:46 PM
Well, From what I know and will be doing later is to modify the stock carrier to fit.
"say what " you say?
THis is what a friend did to his.
He cut off just the part that holds the wheel.
Placed it on his bigger wheel.
Set the spare tire on the bumper and rewelded it back together.
This way some of the wieght is resting on the bumper.
(his is a 2dr covertable)
He also said he hasn't had a problem with it.
BTW. Make sure the rubber tire stops (on the door)are tight against the tire so it doesn't wobble and bend the tailgate.
They may need to be cut shorter tho.

That's cool if you don't want to swing your door open. LOL
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: SnoFalls on November 17, 2005, 07:05:25 PM
FYI:  I had a 31 on my back gate, when I had no bumper.  The weight of the tire BROKE THE WELD on the stock tire carrier.  I would not recommend any solution that includes the stock tire carrier.
x2 ... no way that mount has any business carrying anything more than a 27" tire.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: derekj on November 17, 2005, 10:34:22 PM
my tire is on the roof now. after welding the crap out of it now the door creaks. i'm thinking of mounting it inside the vehicle because the plastic hard top doesn't seem to like the weight.

derek

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b27/derek_j/sunrise%20nov/IMG_1298.jpg)
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Uncivilized on November 17, 2005, 10:44:25 PM
That's a lot of weight to put on thoes tops... About 60lbs of wheel/tire I think, it could cause cracking in the fiberglass.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: crikeymike on November 18, 2005, 03:39:02 PM
I've run both a 30" and a 31" tire on the back gate and never had a problem before.  My 30" fit fine one i had the body lift on.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: SnoFalls on November 18, 2005, 03:52:49 PM
yea but mike ... but, for how long ... once we leave the easy stuff, it'll really be floggin around back there.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: crikeymike on November 18, 2005, 04:24:13 PM
i don't think you've got much experience with it since you don't even carry a spare.

3 years was the longest with a 30" on my 2-door.  Lots of dune driving and jumping, down in Oz, and it was an 89 model.  It never gave any indication of problems with both the mount or the hinges.
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: suzukiboyoz on November 18, 2005, 04:33:17 PM
Here is my mod to fit the 30" tyre.

(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/bracket30.JPG)

(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/30tyre.JPG)
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: ack on November 19, 2005, 10:57:46 AM
ahhh. Yes, much simpler than a custom bumper.  A jeep-driving friend of mine said I should just put wheel spacers on there so that it clears (and hangs behind) the bumper.  Ridiculous.

Modifying the mount though...seems simple enough.  I may decide to go with the cheaper tube bumper then, and keep it mounted to the door.

Perhaps I shoule add some kind of plate on the inside of the door as a brace...


a company called Designs of Steel sells a spare tire extension mounting bracket.  Check it out here: http://www.designsofsteel.com/SpareTireExtensionMount.htm
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: mudfkr on November 19, 2005, 11:31:52 AM
I cut my bracket and moved it up using 1"x1" box section. It handles the 30" I had on it OK but the 32" with a bigger back spaced rim has been giving the back door hell. I'm no longer going to have it on the back door and are still thinking of where to put ?

(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/lh1.JPG)
Left side you need to cut the bracket away at the top so the wiper can still work properly.
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/rh 1.JPG)
Title: Re: Spare tire mounting options for 4-door kick
Post by: Gear on November 19, 2005, 06:35:13 PM
this is what i've done........
(http://gallery.nbs4x4club.com/albums/userpics/sliders%20010.jpg)