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Title: Bending ider arms/bracket
Post by: jagular7 on December 14, 2003, 02:24:09 PM
Been going through lots of topics (don't be away from your computer too long otherwise you miss out). Seems there is a specific problem with lifted Trackicks/Sidekers about the idler arm. Calmini has a possible solution, but there will always be that someone who would bend/brake these also.

Here's a suggestion that came from an old friend of mine which did this trick on his 89 GM truck with a 6" lift. He ran another steering box on opposite side. He fabbed a bracket which boxed the frame to the other side and he added an additional forward 'X' brace. This supported the forces on the frame and actually moved them forward along the frame to where there is more structural support via body mounts/body, radiator core support, winch bumper with winch bucket, etc. He then basically copied Superlift's cross drag link between his 2 pitman arms.

I don't have a Trackick/Sideker to see if this is applicable. Any owner want to comment?
Title: Re: Bending ider arms/bracket
Post by: wildgoody on December 14, 2003, 02:32:45 PM
The problem with bent idlers on Track/Kicks is
the angle of the tie rods pushing up on the
idler, power steering makes it worse, especialy
when you get a wheel against a rock or in a rut.

The zooks have a boxed frame, and the x brace,
I don't know where you could fit it. :-/

The brackets can bend, but I think the problem
is the arm it's self, not the bracket after the fix
or stabilizer is on.
Title: Re: Bending ider arms/bracket
Post by: safarikick on December 14, 2003, 05:01:45 PM
Sidekick Tech:

Strengthening the Sidekick Idler Arm

Editor: Eric Bewley Story/Photo: Bill Lane


INDIANA. �As the Sidekick is used more offroad, it is natural that the size of the tires used will increase and the terrain tackled will become tougher. One of the earlier things to bend or break when building a Sidekick is the Idler arm. With a thin bracket and no lower support , the idler arm shaft will bend with 31� or larger tires. Also the bracket can break at the lower mounting holes.



Backing Plate

First remove the idler arm assembly. Lay the bracket on a 6� x 6� piece of 1/8� plate. Scribe the bolt holes and all the way around the outside of the bracket. Extend the outside dimensions by 1/4�. Cut out the plate and drill the bolt holes. C-clamp the plate to the back of the bracket and weld around the outside and weld around the hole in the middle of the bracket.
Front Of The Bracket

On the top of the bracket where the shaft starts , you can see the small welds and thin piece holding the shaft. To try and strengthen this part , this is what I did. In the before and after pictures of the bracket you can see the small 1/8� pieces I welded on to help hold the shaft. This is 1/8� x 1� steel strap you can get at any hardware store. Remount the assembly.


Lower Support Mount

This lower support will help keep the shaft from bending when turning the wheels while in rocks, ruts, or any kind of bind. Take a piece of 3/16� thick angle with 2 1/2� legs and cut it to 2 3/4� long. On one of the legs cut off 1 1/4�.Lay the short side against the A-arm mount and mark where the idler shaft meets the plate. Drill the hole to fit the shaft. Mount the angle to the shaft then drill holes thru the angle and A-arm mount. Use at least grade 5 or better hardware and use flat washers and lock washers. To make the angle a bit stronger you can weld gussets on the outer edges of the angle. Hit the assembly with some Rustoleum paint

By performing this modification to your Sidekick, you will be able to keep from bending the idler arm bracket. The Lower bracket brace is definitely the key piece to this build up for it spreads the applied force out over the frame and give a couple more bolts to take the stress.



ZW

http://www.zukiworld.com/
Title: Re: Bending ider arms/bracket
Post by: ebewley on December 15, 2003, 01:15:31 AM
Quote
Sidekick Tech:

Strengthening the Sidekick Idler Arm

Editor: Eric Bewley Story/Photo: Bill Lane





Here's the link to the article with pictures. As a side note Sky from Sky's Offroad Design 541-736-3473 has been working on a new steering system for the IFS Sidekick. Give 'em a call and 'nudge' him along! :)

http://www.zukiworld.com/month_100103/feature_sidekickidlerarm.htm

-Eric
Title: Re: Bending ider arms/bracket
Post by: lil_Truck on December 15, 2003, 07:15:31 AM
Here's another idea Jim Mazolla had.

http://www.izook.com/tech/tracker/arm/jimmarm.htm

I've had the Calimini lower support bracket sence I've had my 32's on and haven't had any problems myself.