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Title: beam axle conversion
Post by: oh4mud on July 08, 2009, 01:51:02 PM: i have a 91 5dr escudo i am putting toyota beam axles under it with a 5link susp i want enough height to put 33s under it without a bodylift.i just want to know what would be the best springs to use please
cheers
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: Jeremiah on July 09, 2009, 09:42:22 AM: 5 link?

QA1 14" coils are popular.
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: RHodge on July 17, 2009, 07:45:19 AM: Quote from: Jeremiah on July 09, 2009, 09:42:22 AM
5 link? /quote]

I think He is talking about a four link with a panhard bar
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: Jeremiah on July 17, 2009, 01:15:10 PM: Well, I'm still learning my coil suspension setups... but I thought the point of a 4-link was to not need a panhard bar (like in a 3-link) ???
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: Freak on July 18, 2009, 07:21:10 AM: If the four link is not triangulated it will need a panhard (Track) bar! Not positive but I think the new Jeep's are 5 link!
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: Jeremiah on July 18, 2009, 10:20:52 AM: The link setup in a tracker - is that "triangulated"? Or, is the suspension cycle so short it doesn't need a panhard bar?
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: RHodge on July 18, 2009, 01:22:40 PM: I think most 4x4 that have a four link still have a track bar. My pathfinder has a triangulated four with a track bar in the rear, as for the trakick I think there a three link but I haven't looked that close at one
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: Drone637 on July 18, 2009, 05:39:14 PM: Quote from: Jeremiah on July 18, 2009, 10:20:52 AM
The link setup in a tracker - is that "triangulated"? Or, is the suspension cycle so short it doesn't need a panhard bar?

On the back end of a tracker it actually uses a 3 link system in the rear. The top bar is a single link in the center of the axle on a triangle setup instead of being properly triangulated.

If you want to look at designing a 4 link I recommend reading the following articles:

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/suspension/131_0306_four_link_suspension_part_1/index.html
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/suspension/131_0307_four_link_suspension_part_2/index.html

It goes over a lot of the basics. I used it as a reference when building mine, then use a 4 link calculator from XTreme Off Road instead of having to do the calculations by hand.

For the front end most people use 3 link or 5 link designs because you need a panhard bar to deal with the steering.
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: fordem on July 21, 2009, 08:23:59 AM: It depends on which generation of the Tracker you're looking at.

Early ones (upto '98) have a three link where the top link is a "wishbone" that provides lateral location and so does not require a panhard rod, later models (99 and after) have a five link (four with panhard rod)
Title: Re: beam axle conversion
Post by: Drone637 on July 21, 2009, 02:20:16 PM: Quote from: fordem on July 21, 2009, 08:23:59 AM
It depends on which generation of the Tracker you're looking at.

Early ones (upto '98) have a three link where the top link is a "wishbone" that provides lateral location and so does not require a panhard rod, later models (99 and after) have a five link (four with panhard rod)

HA! Wishbone! That is the word I was looking for.