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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: v-stone on March 09, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
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my 93 kick has a little over 100,000 miles and seems like engine problems around every corner. I know that cast iron engines last loner in general.
Did the earlier sidekicks have cast iron heads or blocks?
What kind of milage are you getting out of your engine?
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Zuki engines have been built from Aluminum since before the kick was made. My early 88 Sami has around 90K (the 1.3 soon to be swapped with the 1.6 8V I'm building) and my 95 kick DD has over 150K on it. On the kick the lash needs set and the water pump replaced but other than that it's still chugging along.
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163k miles on my 1991 Tracker.....owned it for a year....only sprung a coolant leak once...and no other issues to speak of.
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It's common to see them go well into 200k miles, some report passing the 300k mark. Just depends on how well maintained they are... and probably a little bit of luck.
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im turnin almost 187k in the 93 i picked up new years eve. it had 183k on it when i picked it up. and i run it hard, im not used to having such a small vehicle. i must say it feels like its still got tons of life left in it. i need to replace a front seal, and i figure ill do the timing belt while im at it. im worried about how it will hold up with bigger tires and what not though.
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same boat here. converts to 194,000miles on mine....
front seals need to be done, same with timing belt. its got some bawls still but ive been looking since i bought it for another engine... just to have in the garage to rebuild... so when it does go i have another ready.
to get the front seals done and such its going to cost me close to 600 bucks...
been wondering if GM is trying to get rid of any of these engines in crates (had it before with my old car with the 4 cyl 2.5L gm was selling them off for 500 bucks. brand new, never been ran crate engines. been looking around to see if they have the same for the 1.6...)
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she just pushed 267,000 yesterday after making a 3 hour ride and 2 hours of ruff trail riding. you get her in the high rpms she starts to tap alittle and throw some smoke but she still gets me where i need to go.
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when the time comes to replace or rebuild, im either thinking of keeping the 8 valve and rebuilding it for more power, or im tossing the idea of figuring out how to sink a 60 degree 2.8,3.1, or maybe even a 3.8 out of a gm rear drive applictation. i figure it will up the power with adding extensive weight and still be reliable. but i gotta say this little thing suprised me with all those miles it blazed through mud and deep ruts, with bald street tires with no lift yet like it was nothin, well the exhaust was broken off but thats it. before this weekend i was lookin at jeeps but now that i have first hand seen the potentiol and aint skeptic of its capalbility i will be keeping this mini rig for as long as it holds up.
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Don't waste your money on a rebuild. Can do a engine swap for the same $$$. The Buick series II 3.8 has just about the same power as a Chevy 4.3L, but weights less and is much smaller. Not sure why there's not more of them around here. Don't forget about the ALUMINUM Suzuki 2.0L, 2.5L and 2.7L engines....
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im not tryin to impose on this guys trhead, but originally i though of a 4.3 swap before i even bought my tracker. i left out the 3.8. i was thinkin of that to but forgot to mention it. the suzuki engines sound gret to goin by specs, but they also seem more expensive and less plentiful especially in my area.
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You make up the expense by having less custom machining & shoe horning to do, an engine / trans / t-case that's already meant to work together, and having sending units that will work with most (all ???) of your gauges. The 4.3L threads I've followed all said it's the "little things" they never thought of that all added up to some real $$$ and creative engineering. And, lets not forget the added fuel costs of a 4.3L vs a Suzuki...
Anyway, I like to see the 4.3L and would LOVE to see a Series II Buick go in, but... the Suzuki engines just seem easier & lighter to me. But, maybe my local prices and availability are different than yours ???
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weve always got wrecked camaros around here with these engines in them, and i barely ever see anything suzuki related in the local yards. and ebay shipping is crazy most of the time, and i d like to have the other vehicle right there sidee by side with mine to use as many parts as possible for the swap. but im not counting a purist zuki swap out either all depends on what can be located when i decide to go for it.
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Ok with all that said I'm sure your engine is fine. 100,000 mile mark is just a more major maintenance point so do your water pump and timing belt along with a full tune. Im sure your get a 100 more.
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Around 300K on one, and 200K on two others before selling them to someone else to keep running. The one that hie 300K was worn out and got a new 8 valve.
If your looking for more power I would suggest the light weight Suzuki 2.5 or 2.7L V-6. It pulls my kick on 37's down the interstate at 85 mpg with more to spare (and does not take long to get there 8) )
Zig
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It pulls my kick on 37's down the interstate at 85 mpg with more to spare (and does not take long to get there )
i am assuming it is mph? not mpg ???
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It pulls my kick on 37's down the interstate at 85 mpg with more to spare (and does not take long to get there )
i am assuming it is mph? not mpg ???
:P Yea MPH not MPG :P But she dows get mid 20's MPG at 65 on the interstate ;)
Zig
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How easy does the larger zuk engines go into the 1.6 kicks?
I've thought about the 4.3 and the 2.8 chevs myself. Cheap parts and go into the 300k more often then not (what I've seen). I've also looked at the buick "quick 6" but doesn't seem as good for parts/availability.
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i havent seen alot of 300k 4.3s. mine my dads my gpops and my 2 friends all our 4.3s took craps around 150. parts for suzuki motors to chevy motors is pretty much same in price. got to think to suzuki motors have less parts, easy to maintain, more space in engine bay and they are a whole lot lighter than the cast iron v6s. when you add that type of weight in the front, your steering will be harder, parts will wear faster also the money it takes to do the v6 swap u can do a full rebuild on a suzuki motor and have goodies on it.
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How easy does the larger zuk engines go into the 1.6 kicks?
I've thought about the 4.3 and the 2.8 chevs myself. Cheap parts and go into the 300k more often then not (what I've seen). I've also looked at the buick "quick 6" but doesn't seem as good for parts/availability.
I dont know all the details but we got a V-6 with a certain type auto tranny that bolts up to the Sidekick T-case.. Then harness, computer, etc...
Zig
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the caddy trans turbo 200
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theres a stock gm trans that will bolt to a v6 and mate up to the stock tcase?
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I don't believe so, but you can use the automatic on the back of the 2.5L engine to connect to the stock transfer case.
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Which one? Isn't the spline count on the OBDI and OBDII t-cases a little different (I want to say output shaft is fine vs course spline)?