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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: homer74 on December 30, 2008, 11:10:59 PM
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Any advantage of swapping motors both are 8v and both fuel injected?
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More torque. I personally don't think it's worth the effort. 1/2 the reason to go to 1.6L is for the fuel injection, and ditching the Hitatchi carb, but you've already got FI. If you're wanting to do a swap, look at the 2.0L - that's got enough HP & Torque that it'd be worth the $$$ and time.
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I'd swap it. More power, lots more torque and its a simple cheap swap.
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blah, i had a 90 kick with a shaved head, cold air intake and it was no where near as fun to drive as my samurais 1.3L
it is a bit built up with a weber, headers, rebuild, msd ignition, full flowmaster exhaust,etc..
it's on 32's and is more fun than my 90 kick on 33's
unless your motor is really tired, then i woudn't do it. i don't even find the power in my 1.8 in my sprort to be all that great.
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is more fun than my 90 kick on 33's
Are you running stock gearing? 2-door or 4-door?
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stock all stock 2dr.
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Don't forget, the curb weight on the 2 door Sidekicks is listed at around 2400 pounds, 500 pounds more then they list for the curb weight on a Samurai 2 door. That is a lot of extra weight to push around.
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So - you're running 33" tires on something designed to run 27" tires? No wonder it seems sluggish compared to a 1.3L with a crap load of go-fas parts. It's an apples to oranges comparison.
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Any advantage of swapping motors both are 8v and both fuel injected?
Yes defintely! Keep your Samurai's fuel injection and intake and bolt that to the 1.6 long block. You'll notice a good power increase and way better driving. Instead of rowing gears and having it floored all the time you can skip gears and the gas pedal will only be 1/4 to 1/2 way to the floor. Much more pleasant driving experience.
YMMV :)
-Eric
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whats all involved with that job, or is it a simple pull out old drop in new?
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So - you're running 33" tires on something designed to run 27" tires? No wonder it seems sluggish compared to a 1.3L with a crap load of go-fas parts. It's an apples to oranges comparison.
but i'm also running 32x11.5's on the 1.3
not really apples to oranges at all. it's a smaller engine, with some bolt on parts and older technology. the 1.6 in newer , FI, and bigger.
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blah, i had a 90 kick with a shaved head, cold air intake and it was no where near as fun to drive as my samurais 1.3L
it is a bit built up with a weber, headers, rebuild, msd ignition, full flowmaster exhaust,etc..
it's on 32's and is more fun than my 90 kick on 33's
unless your motor is really tired, then i woudn't do it. i don't even find the power in my 1.8 in my sprort to be all that great.
But have you ever run a 1.6 in a Sammy? The power is instant at all revs, just what you need for nearly all driving situations and for most off road driving too. I have an SJ413 with a 1.6 8V and a first gen Vit/Track/Kick with 33s.
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nope, haven't driven one with a 1.6, but i was goingt o go to alll the work of a motor swap it would not be a 1.6 out of a kick.
why not go with a swift gt motor, or a 7mge, or a 5mge, or a vw turbo diesel?
my 1st gen kick with the 33's was still fun, just not asmuch so as my samurai on 32's.
it's all about the gearing anyway, nobody builds a samurai to be a highway queen.
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it's all about the gearing anyway, nobody builds a samurai to be a highway queen.
Rotary Samurai! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kEe9K7L2TA&feature=related
Sorry, had to throw that on there. I love that video.
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A Sami with a 1.6 moves down the road with bigger tires so much better it's crazy! I'd do it. It is well worth the effort.
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so guys what do i need to know and do to do this swap?
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anyone????
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Your dropping a 1.6 into a Samurai with FI?
The easiest would be the 1.6 8v, so you can just keep your existing intake manifold. Then all you need is the adapter to go to your transmission and a possibly new engine mounts. Your electrical should all be the same.
If you want to swap the computer as well, or put in a 16v, it is a bit more complicated. :)
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Thanks :).
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also go on my profile and check out my post on the swap. im in the middle of the swap right now but im carbed. id used the trail tough adapter plate because it has stepper studs so u dont have to drill the bell housing. also u cant use the 1.6 header unless u mod the exhaust. im collecting everything first. its fairly cheap to do as long as u take ur time and look for deals.
also you might want to consider doing some extra thins like
water pump, timing belt kit, dist o-rings, oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket, head gasket, not a must but def intake and exhaust gasket, Gm alt upgrade, spark plugs, cap and rotor, spark plug wires, clutch kit, rear crank seal, thermo gasket and elec fan