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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: serpintis on November 09, 2008, 10:19:07 PM
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heres the thing my dad challenged me to a build off and being competitive as i am i agreed lol but the thing is my dad is alot richer then me and can buy all new parts for his suk as for me i have to scrange everything up so heres what i have got for nothing so far one 88 suk soft top i had a 3 cyl diesel with a turbo given to me with a 3 speed auto trans with a rockwell transfercase cool huh but i now have to find the axles i need im thinking toy but not sure im not sure what suspension to use yet but i know im puting 36 inch mudders under it
any ideas would help lots
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What is the drop front and rear drop on the transfer case?
Are you trying to build a mudder or a trail rig?
Full width axles or are you trying to stay under 76"?
You might want to cross post over to the normal forum, you might get a bit more traffic. :)
Going for 36" tires I would say Toyota axles should be more then enough. What is the diesel engine out of?
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im trying to stay under 76 inches, and a trail rig and as for the drop im not sure till i put it up in , and how do i cross post , the engine is out of a Isuzu mine truck
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heres the thing my dad challenged me to a build off and being competitive as i am i agreed lol but the thing is my dad is alot richer then me and can buy all new parts for his suk as for me i have to scrange everything up so heres what i have got for nothing so far one 88 suk soft top i had a 3 cyl diesel with a turbo given to me with a 3 speed auto trans with a rockwell transfercase cool huh but i now have to find the axles i need im thinking toy but not sure im not sure what suspension to use yet but i know im puting 36 inch mudders under it
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where you from?
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ferron utah
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ferron utah
ok
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why do you ask ?
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Sorry, I should have been more specific about what I mean by drop. :P
On the transfer case, does the front shaft come out on the passenger side or the drivers side? And on the rear, does it come out the center, or is it offset to the right or left.
Isuzu mine truck? Should make for a unique build. How does it compare weight wise to the stock 1.3?
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why do you ask ?
never heard it referred to as a suk before
wondered where you were from
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the thing is my dad is alot richer then me and can buy all new parts for his suk as for me i have to scrange everything up
Sounds a bit unfair to me!
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You could do the cheap build path. Two lockers, the smallest swampers you can get, some body armor and a lot of throttle. :D
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ok front comes out on the pas side and the back comes out straight, and i could just do it that way but then i wouldnt be able to stay and go where he does and i want to plow him in lmao, and for calling it a suk its just my way , and as for the weight im not sure but it shouldnt be that big of a dif
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Cool, your setup properly for the Toyota axles then. Or if you can find them, a set of Dana 44's off of a Scout 2. :D
For the diesel, you might check to see if you need an electric pump or not. A lot of older diesels have two stage pumps, one that pushes fuel up at low pressure and a second mechanical pump on the block that is high pressure for running the injection system.
Just out of curiosity, what is your dad building up?
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he is going with a vortec 3.8 v6 a turbo 350 with the sami transfercaseand i dont know what axles yet lol
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Big build. :)
What are you going to do for the suspension? Stick with leaves and just cut the body up, or lift it to the sky to clear those 36" tires?
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well i can weld really good so i thought i would cut the back off and just leave the front fenders off it too and build from their as for the suspension im not sure yet im going over a couple of ideas in mind but not sure any advise?
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Leaves are quick and easier, and short term they work great. Just plan on building a traction bar sooner then later. :)
I just spent about around 300n parts for my rear end for a 4 link in just metal, bungs and Johnny Joints. Not including shocks, springs, spring cups, etc. Expect to double that to build a 4 link and 3 link properly, your better off sticking with stock springs or some out of a junkyard Jeep. :)
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I would go with some stock height YJ's, if you going to remove the fenders or do anything like that you can fit a large tire and keep it somewhat low. I wouldn't jack the thing up into the sky, then put a huge tire, keep it was low as possible. If your going to go with yota axles you will defiantly going to want to beef up the front axles, possibly with some longfeilds.
Amilla
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well im not going to go over 4 inches of lift but ive been working on an idea at home and it shows great promise so let me tune it in more and then i will tell you what i got and im going to stiffen up both axles a bit
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I run 33" tires with around 5" of lift, and the only reason they fit is the cut up fenders. The BFG's just fit under the front end when I first bulit the rig, but I had to hammer the back of the fender well back.
With 36" tires and only 4" of lift you will have to slide the front axle forward about 4" and remove the fenders. For the rear you are going to need to cut out your fenderwell, and it wouldn't hurt to slide the axle back 2" or so as well. Far enough back to clear the front of the fender, but not so far back you have to move the gas tank. You should be able to get away with just using some Driveline spacers from Spidertrax, otherwise expect to hit a custom drive line shop.
I'm just tossing ideas at this point to avoid having to do work. :D
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If your doing any wheel wheel base change with lift on your samurai, i would defiantly expect to have at least a rear drive line made. Im not sure if this is going to be a trail rig or a trail rig/door slammer.
That all depends on how home made you can get with your drive lines....all trail...square drive lines ;)
Amilla
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ya im going to take the front fenders off and i was going to cut the whole back part of the body off it so i should have plenty of clearence and i planed on building new drive lines cause i was planning to move the front axle to the farthest point i could and the same with the back axle
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well i got my yota axles now so i need info on suspensions let me hear it all !!!!!
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YJ Springs are easy and soft and proven to work.
Coils are cool and somewhat complicated, but they get rid of that problem of hitting your springs on approach.
It's all a matter of how much you want to fabricate vs spend vs both at this point. :D
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You know what year yota axles you got?
Amilla
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off of an 87 yota and i got both styles i got yj springs in the back yard and i got 14 inch trail coils i could do alot of fab and make my own 4link i just want to know the pros and cons of both i dont know much about susuki im a chev man i got a 79 stepside 4x4 with a turbo400 and an ls1 im building and almost done
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79 to 85 are the Toyota mini truck years that came with a solid front axle...84 to 85 being the more desirable ones to get due to a longer lower truss. For a rear axle you should try and get an 86+ because they are 3in wider than a pre 85. You would have to add 1.5" wheel spacers to the front to match the rear ends width.
If you have all the goodies that will work you could always spring the rear end up with YJs then Coil the front, that would give you quite a good amount of travel. It would save you a little more cash too.
Amilla
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thats not a bad idea
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Do you have any pics of the build? I mostly want to see the isuzu mine truck motor and t case. My dad used to have a diesel shop in the early 80s(before I existed) and he had a 2 cylinder isuzu diesel generator for a radio tower that was left over.
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no but i will for ya just give me a couple of days to get it here ok