ZUKIWORLD Online | Suzuki 4x4 Editorial and Forum

ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki Grand Vitara, Vitara, Chevy Tracker (Gen. 2 Platform) 1999-2005 => Topic started by: 2K1USGV on April 29, 2006, 11:25:41 PM

Title: Tire Pressure
Post by: 2K1USGV on April 29, 2006, 11:25:41 PM
Just wondering what tire pressure everyone is running. I know the stock tire pressure is supposed to be 26PSI all around, but what about aftermarket tires? Different sizes?
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: HotRod on April 30, 2006, 06:31:08 PM
I, Personelly, Run 25lbs front and rear for D.D.
Thats on 2dr and 4dr with 32"s
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: 2K1USGV on April 30, 2006, 06:40:20 PM
Yeah, I'm aired down to 26psi, I checked what it was because the ride seemes really rough with my new tires and the tire shop had it up to 38psi on my 10 ply 245/75/16's.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: willhl on April 30, 2006, 07:57:37 PM
I run 36psi, need to get a compressor so I can air down off road.

36psi is what the tyre place recommended, it is also what was recommended when I did a driving course (emergency braking etc for on road).  My understanding is that the tyres will contact the ground better and clear water better, the added bonus of better fuel economy is handy too.  I'm just running standard sized Bridgestone Dueller A/T D694.  Once off road I've heard people recommending pressures down to 10psi but it all depends on what you are driving on and what tyres you have, I don't think I'd go that low without bead lockers.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: sergi on May 02, 2006, 02:21:19 PM
I run around 45 psi. Mine are retreads, and high pressures are recommended to avoud overheating the tire (with the risk of losing the new tread). The extra soft rubber makes it not too stiff...
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: AJMBLAZER on May 02, 2006, 08:05:17 PM
I'm down around 20-22psi on the 31's on the Tracker.  Think I need to go lower.

The GV has 25psi per tire and I could probably stand to go lower as well.

The Ranger has 30psi and I think I'm happy where they are.  Rangers are kinda porky for "midsize pickups". :P
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 02, 2006, 08:35:04 PM
i run 235/60-16 (26psi) on my GV, those tyres are not good on road at all!
but the roads here in Norway is really bad, feels like driwing a BOAT downstreems >:(
can it help to use more pressure?

my winter tyres are 195/75-16, mutch better on road but gooks like goofy's car (too slim tyres)

got new tyres for next season 225/65-16 cooper power king plus, hope they are not too bad on-road.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: 2K1USGV on May 09, 2006, 08:05:13 AM
If the 235/60/16 aren't good you should maybe go for 235/70/16's. Since theese will have a taller sidewall they will ride smoother on and off the road, but I would still use only 26lbs of pressure in them.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: Maroon Monsoon on May 09, 2006, 10:02:21 AM
I am running stock size as far as I know that are toyo 800 ultras.. they are stupid tires but are lasting well. I just run the max 45 in them. since for now I primarily only usie it on pavement and a few gravel and dirt roads. They seem to be working fine like that. I think I'll start running at about 40 psi since the center of my tread is wearing a bit faster than the rest
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: jSager on May 09, 2006, 10:17:06 AM
I run 237/70/16 Dayton Timberline A/T at 35 psi.  I've been thinking of upping to 40, as I spend way too much time on road and could use the extra mileage.

jSager
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: the_maplebar on May 09, 2006, 10:49:26 AM
Yes, if you run higher tire pressures you may get a little better gas mileage, but you will likely get uneven wear and the tires will not last as long.

Here is an article on tire pressures, it concentrates on off road pressure but does some analysis of street pressures too.

http://www.4x4now.com/sfjun96.htm

I've seen other people do calculations on what PSI is required to safely carry a load but couldn't remember what that is.  Is it really as simple as

MAX PSI / MAX Load  =  X PSI / Actual Load

It makes sense, but I thought I remembered more calculations being done than that.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 09, 2006, 05:33:30 PM
If the 235/60/16 aren't good you should maybe go for 235/70/16's. Since theese will have a taller sidewall they will ride smoother on and off the road, but I would still use only 26lbs of pressure in them.

i spoke to a fellow 99 GV 2,0TD driver today, the same car as mine. he uses 235/70-16.

he's car didn't like the bigger tyres,
with 235/60-16 he drove it on 0,6-0,7Litres on 10KM's.

with 235/70-16 it needs 0,8-0,9Litres on 10KM's.

i'm not sure i like the bad diesel mile age >:(

any input????
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: sergi on May 11, 2006, 08:26:02 AM
beerman, your friends car must be the 8v 5 door. Mine is the 16v 3 door. I use 235/70-16 reteads. Mileage has soared really high. Without taking into account the wrong odometer, I think it's above 10l/100km now. I haven't checked,I am too scared! :-[
Besides, your friends car should have 4.3 diff ratio, mine is 3.9! :-X
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 11, 2006, 02:39:09 PM
we both hawe 99's, 87hp Mazda 8v engines.

i've chiptuned mine +K&N air filter, it actually helped on diesel mileage.

guess i got 110+ hp now, i learned that chiptuning lets me drive hard vith good diesel mileage :D
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: sergi on May 11, 2006, 03:18:08 PM
Right, I've got the Peugeot engine, I was actually referring to the 8v Peugeot engine in my other post but later thouht about the Mazda engines...
Mine comes stock with announced 110hp, but it comes out at a measuered 116hp. I supponse mine is a couple of hp higher with the Green air filter. A friend has chiptuned his to 140 hp, now that is nice! ;D
But as I said, my current mileage is terrible. I need a regear soon! :-X What gear ratio do you have?
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 11, 2006, 08:18:51 PM
i have no idea about the gear ratio, but it's a 5door.
hawent measured my hp, but i hope it's more than the stock 87hp ;D
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: Carnage on May 11, 2006, 11:39:26 PM
(taken from my cardomain page)
I think 32 psi is good for my tires. Recommended (for stock) 23 psi was too soft. Went to 30 psi which was ok. 44psi was way too hard. Dropping it to 36 psi helped a bit. But I think I'll keep it at 32 psi for the time being. The ride is good, pretty solid, and it doesnt feel too much like a covered wagon.
.
.
.
.
.
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/673000-673999/673055_328.jpg)
X32...................X32CarDomainPage...................X32 (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/673055)

...................RyouBakua|removethispart|@Hotmail.com..................


Help me Heal!!!!!! CLICK HERE!!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.mgcluster.net/mguk_world1/?ac=vid&vid=11027759)[/color]
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 12, 2006, 10:07:13 AM
thank you, i will try that on my way to work.

i clicked your link as a return favor ;)
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: Carnage on May 12, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
cool
 8)
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 13, 2006, 02:46:27 PM
filled 36 psi in my tyres today, think i will keep them at that pressure for a while.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: Carnage on May 13, 2006, 02:49:06 PM
when I had my stock alloys on, I ran them high for best mileage possible

at least 40psi I think

(it ran well)
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 13, 2006, 03:41:29 PM
i might trye to go higher later.
when you whent that high, did they wear much on the middle?
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: Carnage on May 13, 2006, 04:39:49 PM
I believe the wear was pretty even

(but then again, I almost never go offroad)
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 13, 2006, 04:46:49 PM
ok, i drive mainly on-road. so that sounds good 8)
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: AJMBLAZER on May 13, 2006, 08:26:02 PM
On road is where you'll see the wear quicker.  Offroad you could run tires over inflated for years and it would be less noticeable.  Pavement is more abrasive than most offroading surfaces.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 13, 2006, 08:43:44 PM
i've seen the face of a mc driver that surfed the pavement on he's face, it weared qick ;)

my tyres seem to be worn mostly on the sides, when i bought the car i had to put on the winter tyres right away.
so i hawen't used the 235/60-16's a lot, still the 195/75's is better to ride on.

-but look's lame >:(
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: AJMBLAZER on May 14, 2006, 06:53:11 AM
Was each tire worn on the sides?  If so it sounds like they genuinely need more air pressure.

We put 225/75R16 mud terrains on my wife's GV and it looks MUCH better.  We lost a bit of gas mileage but eh, it rides and drives better than it did with those squishy 235/60R16 car tires.
Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: beerman on May 14, 2006, 02:23:28 PM
2 of the tyres are worn at the sides, they are newer than those that are evenly worn.
but i didn't think of it when i got it, just filled the 26 psi

had to put on snow tyres anyway.


Title: Re: Tire Pressure
Post by: willhl on May 14, 2006, 05:35:21 PM
I just thought I'd do a quick web search to see if I could find pictures of tyre wear and a diagnosis of the problems, I found some info at these sites:

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

http://www.goodyear.co.za/tire_school/problems.html

The "tyre bible" has heaps of other info which is interesting but you'll need to scroll down a long way to see the stuff on tyre wear.  I also found some photos at tyremaster.com.au or something like that but I'm sure some of the over/under inflation lables were wrong.