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XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« on: June 07, 2005, 10:35:19 PM »
Will the XL7's V6 bolt up to the Trackick transmission?
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2005, 11:38:41 PM »
No ;)
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2005, 11:47:58 PM »
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No ;)

So, what did you do then to make it fit.... :-/ Or did you put in the XL7 trans and t-case with it. Some more info would be nice  ;D
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2005, 12:19:50 AM »
I think Eric did the XL-7 Automatic trans with a Kick 4:1 tcase matted to it. There was some problem with the output shaft on the 5 speed XL-7 trans mating to a Kick 4:1.

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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2005, 12:29:04 AM »
Yes, more details would be nice, 95XL7, even though this topic has probably been covered before ;)

So, with some modification, Eric was able to get the older style kick case onto the XL7 Trans, or did he just use the 4:1 gearset in the XL7 tcase? Guess I'll just have to wait for some more details on this.

Also, Eric and 95XL7, as many pics as you care to post of such items as your engines, transmissions, tcases, mounting structures for all of the above, and any specific details on the swap would be much appreciated :)
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2005, 01:42:33 AM »
Yes more info on this would nice as I have an Xl-7 and I'm try to find a way to t-case gears.
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2005, 01:59:26 AM »
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Yes, more details would be nice, 95XL7, even though this topic has probably been covered before ;)

So, with some modification, Eric was able to get the older style kick case onto the XL7 Trans, or did he just use the 4:1 gearset in the XL7 tcase? Guess I'll just have to wait for some more details on this.

Also, Eric and 95XL7, as many pics as you care to post of such items as your engines, transmissions, tcases, mounting structures for all of the above, and any specific details on the swap would be much appreciated :)


In brief this is what I had to do to get everything to bolt up with out any adapters.  2.7 XL7 engine to 2.5 GV auto transmission to 1.6 transfercase. This was because I wanted to have crawler gears. The ONLY V6 transmission option that works to date is the 2.5 auto which plugs in directly to the 2.7 brain with no problemo. The 2.5 5-speed, 2.7 auto and 5-speed have different output shafts. The bolt pattern is the same but the shafts are different. So, if someone was crafty they could probably make it work pretty easily.


Hope this helps, Eric
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2005, 08:23:30 AM »

I know, adapterless...but still have slip yokes?    barf.

To fix the slip yoke issue there is a company in British Columbia can modify Kick t-cases to be able to bolt up either a Sammy or Toyota t-case behind it.
Dual cases, w/ flanges.  

That'd give ya a 2.7L, v6, auto, and to top it, it'd have gears until the end of the earth.


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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2005, 09:37:08 AM »
Trail Toughs T-case gears will work in the GV t-cases .... So you could take you 2.7l and bolt it up to the GV trans/case combo and you are ready to roll.


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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2005, 09:43:19 AM »
A home-brew Kicker 3 is probably what I'll be doing to rid myself of slipyokes (with the SAS, that's a requirement)... It's good to know that a 1.6 tcase will bolt up to the 2.5 auto, since I have three cases I can play with :P

What axle ratios did the auto 2.5L XL7 have?
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2005, 10:53:32 AM »
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Trail Toughs T-case gears will work in the GV t-cases .... So you could take you 2.7l and bolt it up to the GV trans/case combo and you are ready to roll.




No this is incorrect unless they have two versions of gears. True, the GV automatic has the same output shaft as the 1.6 engines so there is ONE combonation that can use crawler gears but the GV 5-speed and XL7 engines' transmissions have different output shafts that will not go together.

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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2005, 10:53:41 AM »
2.7 XL7 autos have 5:13 gears and i believe sticks have 4:62 or 4:88 not sure.
I did my swap as a complete deal with the 2.7 and auto trans/case, i wasn't worried to much about ratio's since my Tracker is mostly on the road.
My Tracker already had 5:13's because it was a 5 speed before.
Headed out to the garage to work on it now. ;D
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2005, 10:55:53 AM »
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What axle ratios did the auto 2.5L XL7 have?


In looking at the "tech spec" http://www.zukiworld.com/main_departments_techspecs.htm section we find: 5.12 for auto 4.30 for 5-speed.

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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2005, 11:29:46 AM »
Well look at that... there's a site outside the forums here ;)

So when I start calling around salvage yards, what I'm looking for is an XL7 2.7L V6 with computer and wiring, and a 4wd Grand Vitara automatic transmission, correct?

Also, automatic GV's came with 4.88 gears, with a Sammy tcase behind a 1.6 tcase, would 5.12s work with 33-35's, or so?
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Re: XL7 V6 to Tracker trans/tcase
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2005, 03:58:30 PM »
I ment take a 2.7l motor and bolt it up to the GV auto like you did.... But you can use the GV t-case aswell if you want... I think you can based off TT add in the home page... When we talked to Brent about installing the 2.5l we were gonna use the motor trans and tcase out fo the GV.

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