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Offline dj250r

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86 samurai messed up crank
« on: December 07, 2008, 04:25:12 PM »
well got me a messed up crank end where the timing gear slips on to a key in the keyway
the keyway is wobbled over and the key is a bit hammered too
is there a fix for this ?
im looking for a used but in good cond. timing gear and a new key timing belt and cover also got to pick up a new front main seal( do I just dig the old main seal out and tap in a new one?or is there a specific tool and way to do it )
thanks for any help
Dwayne

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Re: 86 samurai messed up crank
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 08:26:21 PM »
do a search. i remember reading something about this problem. i think the person used a jbweld. also im about to do a motor swap and i was just going to just put the 1.3 in my motor pile but i can check out the crank and see how it is. she has 243k on her  :laugh: but runs good except the valve seals leak like a faucet. its going to be awhile due to the swap is first and xmas shopping  ???
Bob
88' Samurai - 5" Lift, 3" DIY Body Lift, 31" Baja Claws, Rattle can flat green, Smittybilt Winch, Custom front bumper, 1.6 swap in progress

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Re: 86 samurai messed up crank
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 10:02:15 PM »
I found a lock tite  fix on this  site  but   Im not  sure  that  will work  for my sammy its  beat  up on  the keyway bad looks as  tho it  was welded and i have to grind that off  clean the keyway out get a new  key and gear  im thinking liquid steel and locktite and maby a few tacks from a tig
Dwayne

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Re: 86 samurai messed up crank
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 10:12:06 AM »
i might be wrong but dont you have to pull the crank out if your going to weld it?

you have a tig! i have a question. whats a good tig welder? my friend and I are thinking on going in halves for one. we want to get one that is portable. so if we have to take it somewhere to weld at a friends or get lucky and have a job to do
Bob
88' Samurai - 5" Lift, 3" DIY Body Lift, 31" Baja Claws, Rattle can flat green, Smittybilt Winch, Custom front bumper, 1.6 swap in progress

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Re: 86 samurai messed up crank
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 12:36:24 PM »
Hi Guys
Mine was messed up too and used JB Weld and locktite and its working so far.Im got a used timing gear and key,I cleaned the crank real good with a scotchbright pad and some brake parts cleaner then JB Welded the key in place,let it set for 3 days,filed down the JB so used gear would slip on then locktited the gear to crank tightened the bolt with an impact wrench and let it set 2 days put on new timing belt and its runing good so far.This is not a DD so it only gets run once a week to keep the batt charged up and when I go wheeling.If you want to see some pics go to photobucket and look at madmark_357 album.Hope this helps you.
86 samurai,29x10.50x15 tsl ssx's,my-side2,44mm hd carb,DT header soon to have yj missing links,zor front bumper,rro rear bumper
91 tracker,30x11.50x15 tsl ssx's,tub front bumper

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Re: 86 samurai messed up crank
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 12:38:56 PM »
I think I did a write up over on Zukikrawlers,do a searchfor timing gear or timing belt.
86 samurai,29x10.50x15 tsl ssx's,my-side2,44mm hd carb,DT header soon to have yj missing links,zor front bumper,rro rear bumper
91 tracker,30x11.50x15 tsl ssx's,tub front bumper

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Re: 86 samurai messed up crank
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 07:10:17 PM »
 I wish Ihad  a  tig  my  father dose so I have  to  take  everything  there  to  do it  but  the only reason I would  use  a  welder / tig is  to  make  sure  it  dosnt  move  agian
 Im thinkin  new / used gear and  key  loctite jb weld  then tig tack weld
( if  this  makes no scence Iv had  a  few  jack  and  coolaids)  but  this motor is  not  going to be rebuilt  by me  at  least  saving  for 16v
 I do  haVE  A WIRE FEED BUT  seem I  need  better  control so  I thought  a  tig would  get  in  a tighter area  better weld
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