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Offline dex

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SAS
« on: May 13, 2006, 07:00:29 PM »
Where can I get some info SAS for 92 tracker. Got lots of sami parts laying around.Will stock tracker gears fit sami housing.I got the skills to swap but I want some fore sight first.

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Re: SAS
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2006, 07:07:18 PM »
What exactly did you want to do?


Did you already try the Search window?

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Re: SAS
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2006, 07:16:08 PM »
Sami front Tracker coils. I want the front to match the rear. I dont think ifs will hold up to me and Tellico.

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Re: SAS
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2006, 07:27:45 PM »
the major problem dex is that the sammy axel width doesnt match the tracker width
there is a few people on this board who have done this swap, so hope they chime in.
i myself have a SAS sidekick being built using toyota axles, which in my opinion is the way to go.
the toyotas are a LOT tougher than the sidekick and sammy axles. IMO the sammy birfields are no stronger than the sidekick CV's, so you arnt gaining much :-\
good luck with the swap, post some pictures if you can ;)
jason
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1993 4 door lifted "Road Warrior"
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Re: SAS
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2006, 07:41:28 PM »
I got a pair of toy axles but I know sami axles are strong and there are more parts for them than ifs. and alot simpler. Plus i hope to use stock gears from the tracker. how much shorter is the sami axle.

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Re: SAS
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2006, 08:35:34 PM »
The stock sammy axles aren't so bad, but I have heard a lot of horror stories about the birfields too...  and yeah, I am with you, I am getting tired of the ifs breakage too....

I want toy axles myself
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Re: SAS
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 09:33:30 PM »
IMO, Toy axles would be the way to go. I have entertained the idea for my Sami in the future. If you are going to go through the trouble of doing a SAS, go for the stronger axle.
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Re: SAS
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2006, 08:24:08 AM »
I got a pair of toy axles but I know sami axles are strong and there are more parts for them than ifs. and alot simpler. Plus i hope to use stock gears from the tracker. how much shorter is the sami axle.

The problem with Samurai axles is the width, as well as the strength of the birfields. The width of a Samurai axle is 51.5 or 52.5 (I've been told both  ::) ) and, the Sidekick width is 57.5. So, basically, you're losing 3 inches on each side. The birfields then become a problem, because you are putting an axle made for a lighter vehicle onto a heavier one. And, if you want to try to cope for the width cheaply, you'd probably put offset rims as well as wheel spacers on it, but your "scrape ratio" goes up, as well as the wear/ pressure against those birfields.

We created our own Samurai front end at one time - we lengthened one side, and put a custom axle in it, with double tough birfields and chromoly shafts. We also trussed it. It was very strong. We gave this up though, because now, the Sidekick rear couldn't handle the abuse we were giving it, and kept breaking axles. We had a lockrite in the rear of that axle, as well as a spool, giving it a shot with both.

But, in the end we ended up going with Toyota FZJ80 Landcruiser axles. WAY strong, perfect width, high pinion and electric lockers.

IMO for most SAS guys, going with Toy Minitruck axles are the way to go!

Also, yes, the front differential from your sidekick will fit into the front of the samurai. However, the rear will not fit into the rear of the samurai, it's too big. The front differential is aluminum however.
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Re: SAS
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 11:19:16 AM »
Thanks for the advice I think I will do some tape work myself. This one is almost ready for the trails so I will find out what its made of. then we see what it gets when it breaks.

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Re: SAS
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2006, 12:17:55 PM »
I will find out what its made of. then we see what it gets when it breaks.

Sounds like a plan.   ;)
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Re: SAS
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2006, 03:08:30 PM »
oh god you havn't even broke it yet?  i would run it for a while and advise you to put a set of yota CVs in and with steel front end and a locker.  you might find yourself suprised.

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Re: SAS
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 06:05:54 PM »
I just bought it. It would only kinda run. had a problem with efi so some jackass ripped it all off and put on a vw 1barrel carb. already put on 32-11.50s front and rear bumpers.just looking for the right deal on carb or all efi parts.