i've seen petoworks and though about buying it, but whats the fun in that i love to fab haha thats what my sidekick is and done very clean plus i dont have 650 plus shipping to spend on one i'm a budget guy got all kinds of ideas, and a bunch of note books with designs for parts. just real slow going, but the petoworks is real simialer to the one i have drawn out i just did more gusseting like sipder webs to make it look cool.