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Offline olefafl

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« on: April 18, 2009, 03:15:37 PM »
I want to make sure that a Samurai header will fit a Tracker 4x2 (8v).

Also who has the best value on them?  I looked at Hawks website, but didn't see them listed.
Summit has 2 in the $155 range.

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Re: Headers
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 05:20:08 PM »
i have a pacesetter header that was made for a samurai.
it fits on. stock exhaust needs to be modified(cut/weld).
i'm trying 2 1/2" all the way back and no cat. i'll see how that works in 2 weeks when i go fishing.
mine is 4x4 and 1.3L w/carb(89kick).
i bought it new from a private party. cheap.
if i like it i will get a thorley or CA smog legal one, 'cause i need to drive it on the hwy and will need to make it smog ready next year.
any help?
'89 kick w/little motor, still got pieces of jeff's pucks, stan's sticks into 4.24:1 tcase, 31x10.5x15's, rear lockrite, kick power steering, some radios(kj6esv), bmw seat, other changes just because. done on the cheap.
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Re: Headers
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 01:05:41 AM »
I got a Calmini header. I like it, it works and looks good, moreover, it's adding me some more ponnies by letting my engine exhale freely. If You've started with exhaust system already, then better do it once and proper, meaning, I would stay away from steel headers and go for stainless ones and rebuild the whole exhaust after header as well.
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Re: Headers
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 03:50:23 PM »
i bought a hedman it was 150.00 new from summit. pianted it inside and out with header paint. drilled and welded in a o2 sensor bung(3.00 from summit). it was for a sammi ,i have a side kick and it worked fine.    thanks matt
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Re: Headers
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 04:03:46 PM »
I use the pacesetter longtube, its works good for me. You should have them coated if using the steel application.
Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some freakin' muscle.

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Re: Headers
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 11:15:07 AM »
 I've always had very good luck with the Calmini headers. They are a much heavier material in everyway than the cheapos you guys are trying to say are great. They have heavy flanges so you won't have gasket issues. They have much heavier guage tubing so you don't have to worry about them cracking. The newer stainless version is probably the best header you can buy, and won't have to do again. The 8V 1.3 and 1.6 have the same mounting pattern on the head.
 2 1/2" is way too big for a little 1.3 or 1.6 to breathe properly. It doesn't have enough backpressure for it to build any low end torque. You would be best to have it built with a good free flowing 2" cat, muffler, and tubing to get the best results.
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Re: Headers
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 01:25:19 PM »
I've always had very good luck with the Calmini headers. They are a much heavier material in everyway than the cheapos you guys are trying to say are great. They have heavy flanges so you won't have gasket issues. They have much heavier guage tubing so you don't have to worry about them cracking. The newer stainless version is probably the best header you can buy, and won't have to do again. The 8V 1.3 and 1.6 have the same mounting pattern on the head.
 2 1/2" is way too big for a little 1.3 or 1.6 to breathe properly. It doesn't have enough backpressure for it to build any low end torque. You would be best to have it built with a good free flowing 2" cat, muffler, and tubing to get the best results.

Not sure about the much heavier part. According to my tape my flange is the same thickness 3/8 + mine has the long tube that connects 24" past the block, which you will agree has better function that the short tube application. If im wrong ( I have been in the past ) I would love to compare dyno sheets and see the error of my ways. We did the trial and we found the long-tube variety worked better, maybe it was the air quality!!!!!  8)
Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some freakin' muscle.

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Re: Headers
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 01:43:43 PM »
  2 1/2" is way too big for a little 1.3 or 1.6 to breathe properly. It doesn't have enough backpressure for it to build any low end torque. You would be best to have it built with a good free flowing 2" cat, muffler, and tubing to get the best results.

Oh, brother.  The backpressure thing again.  How many more Pa does the 2" you're suggesting give than 2-1/2", anyway?   
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Re: Headers
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 01:50:13 PM »
never understood the backpressure thing.
how can it be a good thing?
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Re: Headers
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 02:06:19 PM »
never understood the backpressure thing.
how can it be a good thing?

High-revving engines with extreme valve-timing overlap.  Just exactly like our trucks don't have.
'03 ZR2 2dr Tracker, '02 XL-7 drivetrain and electrcs
XL-7 front coils
1.5" rear coil spacers
Monroe 32316 shocks w/2" extenders
235/70-16 Bridgestone Destination A/Ts on stock XL-7 Alloys RRO Rock Rails (Presently removed, as they rusted to all hell; all the bolts were rusted to dust.  Real nice, RRO...) http://www.trivia-nights.com