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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2012, 07:04:02 AM »
...is it soup, yet?

Did you bust that thing off? She a runner?

Does she go?

 wink, wink, nudge, nudge..'a wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse'
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2012, 06:47:34 PM »
Only an old fuck would use a reference from a faces song  :laugh: Gettin close, only got an hour or 2 a night to work on it. Going to pick up some new belts tomorrow and 1 replacement AN3 oil line. Pretty much all that's left is replacing the seal on the shift shaft of the trans, droppin the turbo back in ( I test fit it and pulled it back out to finish up tidying up some wiring and oil line),  put the disty cap and wires on, drop in some new plugs, fill all the fluids and connect the battery.  If it aint runnin by Friday I'm slacking.   ;D
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2012, 08:01:53 PM »
Only an old fuck would use a reference from a faces song  :laugh: 

If it aint runnin by Friday I'm slacking.   ;D

even older, Monty Python.....

we will hold ya too it! Friday!
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2012, 03:57:34 AM »
Damn you guys are tough ( and OLD )  :laugh:  Ran into a minor issue last night, went to put the belts and fan back on and the ac/power steering belt seem to long? WTF? I'm thinking there are two positions to mount the PS pump on the bottom and I may have used the wrong one. Figures, work 12 hours then go home and go back to work. I may be just too tired to concentrate.  Gonna have another look at it tonight. I've really been taking my time, every nut, bolt, bracket and accessory has been cleaned, painted, wire wheeled, an or/ replaced. New starter and alternator ( thanks to Auto Zone life time free replacement ) all new hoses, cleaned up all wiring etc. what I really need is a good 4 hours straight to get it done. Maybe I'll call in sick tomorrow.  >:D
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2012, 04:36:08 AM »
to get as old as we are, you have to be tough, buddy!



you can get a different belt length; the book they have will show all sizes up and down from stock = easy

you must be tired! I thought you were not working ATM?



Friday's coming....SLACKER!    ;D
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2012, 04:59:15 AM »
Damn you guys are tough ( and OLD )  :laugh:  

Just remember, youth and endurance will never overcome age and treachery.......
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2012, 06:02:43 AM »
Damn you guys are tough ( and OLD )  :laugh:  Ran into a minor issue last night, went to put the belts and fan back on and the ac/power steering belt seem to long? WTF? I'm thinking there are two positions to mount the PS pump on the bottom and I may have used the wrong one. Figures, work 12 hours then go home and go back to work. I may be just too tired to concentrate.  Gonna have another look at it tonight. I've really been taking my time, every nut, bolt, bracket and accessory has been cleaned, painted, wire wheeled, an or/ replaced. New starter and alternator ( thanks to Auto Zone life time free replacement ) all new hoses, cleaned up all wiring etc. what I really need is a good 4 hours straight to get it done. Maybe I'll call in sick tomorrow.  >:D

Yes, there are 2 positions that you can mount the PS pump in. 
One is just a hole for the bolt (making the PS pump non-adjustable).  You use this position, when you have AC, and then use the AC compressor to adjust belt tension.
The other position is a slot for the bolt.  You use this position, when you have just PS, so you can use the PS pump to adjust belt tension.
The slot is farther out on the bracket, than the hole.  So if you have the bolt in the slot, instead of the hole, then that would make the belt too short, not too long.  I'd guess they gave you the wrong belt.  From my experience, the belt is a PITA to get on, when you have both AC and PS (the belt is just barely long enough to slip/pry over the pulleys, with the AC compressor loosened as much as it will loosen).
I guess if you really think the belt is too long, and you don't want to get another one, you could move the PS pump to the slot.  Between the PS pump and the AC compressor being able to take up slack, you should be able to run a belt that is considerably longer than a stock one.
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2012, 03:27:56 AM »
Got it, just moved the bolt to the slot and it did indeed easily take up the slack. Must have made some changes when building the turbo I just plain forgot. I had the PS unit out on the bench for some badly needed maintenance, it was also leaking and I wanted to remove it from the mount and fix everything. Just forgot to look at the mounting before I stripped it. Put back in the wrong hole. I know " that's what she said."
How about age and CRS in my case. CRS = can't remember shit  :laugh:
Got home from work again last night at 7:30 and after having a bit of dinner and shower worked on it for another hour. Finished installing the alt, ps and ac with all the belts, rad hoses, fan and shroud, alc/h20 injector pump, and lines. I'l be able to pick up the replacement oil line I ordered for my turbo today. With any luck I'll get home before 7pm and get some time to work on it.

John, Yeah, I've been back at work since monday the 8th, with braces for my left and right hands that make actually working a joke. I can only where them when I'm driving, which is a lot of the time, but when wrenching I have to take them off to hold a tool. Kind of defeats the purpose of having the brace in the first place. Workmans comp Dr. put me back to work after 2 weeks but with a bunch of restrictions, which if followed would make it impossible to actually DO The JOB. Fuckin' idiiots. I'm really just trying to maintain and protect my territory so I don't get replaced. At my age, yeah bring on the old fart jokes, it's damn near impossible to find another job. Between the job and the Tracker my hands are taking a real beating. Thank god for vicodin. Yeah, to get this old and fucked up you do need to be tough  :laugh:
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2012, 03:36:38 AM »
tell me about it...I still cannot move 2 fingers on L hand and have more surgery coming!


Oh, and since it's Friday; she must be a runner by now, eh?   :P
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2012, 06:53:21 AM »
Bentparts
I have been off hunting for a month and have been reading your build since I got back, and have been having a good chuckle over it.  This seems to happen to me every time I have had my V6 out, and while my hands aren't meat hooks there wasn't enough room for the motor when I started.  And here I have been kicking myself when I spend a nights work trying to find the belt that fit when I removed everything, only to figure out it is mounted in wrong holes (while knowing YOU don't have that problem). 
I hope you redeem your status and I get to hear it purr, or at least cough roughly today. 
I saw you mentioned that you might try to make Moab this year, hope you do.  Seems that might be the place to draw and meet those I only know by their monikers.  We had three rigs (all family) go down there last year and had a good time (other than break downs), but meeting & greeting seems to improve times.
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2012, 06:21:30 AM »
Well it's saturday morning and I still have some work to do. got home from work at 7:45 last night and worked for about an hour and a half on it. Slept in this morning for some badly needed rest. It took me most of that 1.5hrs to R+R that F"N trans shifter seal. That bitch just wouldn't come out, and when it finally did I had probably done more damage to the seal housing that will make it leak worse.  :laugh:
All I have left to do is put in the plugs and wires ( marked 'em this time so I don't mix 'em up in my feeble state ) install the intake /turbo tubing, fill all the fluids, attach the battery leads and see if it'll fire up. 
One thing that I've been thinking about is oil at start up. I used a quality assembly lube ( Royal Purple ) and slathered everything real good, but didn't remember to prime the oil pump, if this is even necessary. I hope it isn't going to come back and bit me in the ass.
Another thing that's giving me some trouble is the trans TV ( kickdown) cable. Minor issue, but I can't remember how it mounts to the throttle. I seem to have way too much cable left when I try and hook it up and the manual is less than useless in this regard. Can anyone with an auto snap a pic of the routing into the throttle ( 16 V ) and post it up here ? I need some help on this one.
Birdhunter, yeah it's always the little things that seem to slow down the whole forward progress thing. I would really love to make Moab one of these times, I just have to work on getting the two weeks off in a row from my slave driver employers.
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2012, 10:15:59 AM »
pull the coil wire and run starter for 20 secs to build pressure first...
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2012, 05:35:46 PM »
Damn you guys are tough ( and OLD )  :laugh:  

Just remember, youth and endurance will never overcome age and treachery.......

Oh yeah, that's why all the "old " men are marched off to fight the wars  :laugh:
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2012, 05:37:50 PM »
In the immortal words of Dr. Frankenstein.......................................   " It's Alive !!!! "
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2012, 06:27:37 PM »
Damn you guys are tough ( and OLD )  :laugh:  

Just remember, youth and endurance will never overcome age and treachery.......

Oh yeah, that's why all the "old " men are marched off to fight the wars  :laugh:

Sorry, ya got it wrong there junior, the OLD FARTS start the wars and then send you young bucks to some god-for-saken hellhole to fight,
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