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da_mtg_man

New guy and a couple questions
« on: January 21, 2008, 03:42:26 PM »
Hi all. My 9 & 10 yr old just bought a Sami for our hunt camp. It is all stock (except for camo paint  ;D )
Here's my issue. The leaf springs are flat. Do I have them re-arched and add a leaf or do I go with this? http://www.rocky-road.com/budgetlift.html
It has  245/75/15 so if I'm not mistaken thats about a 29. I'd like to put 31 in buckshots or super swampers but need a couple more inches (story of my life). Any suggestions from you vets would be greatly appreciated.

Mike

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Offline crikeymike

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Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 05:02:04 PM »
It all depends on your budget, but i'd personally just get a set of new replacement springs to bring the height back up.

A lot of people run stock sami's with flat leaf springs, and they can ride ok to where people don't care to spend any money on them.

An add a leaf added to a flat spring may not do much for you.
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da_mtg_man

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 05:59:10 PM »
I was planning on getting replacements springs but from the ones I've seen they are as much as the 3 inch lift from Rocky-road. I really don't want to sink $500 into a $900 camp truck but it may be worth it so that I can get some aggressive tires under her. Hell, Tampa Spring wanted $900 to re-arch and add a piece of steel. That guy was freakin nuts.

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phloop

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 06:16:01 PM »
If it is just a play rig, don't worry about the flat springs. Mine have been flat for years.

I do have a SPOA for the lift, I am planning on installing the TT YJ kit when the funds are available. That will cure the flat springs and give a better ride, and a thinner wallet. :laugh:

As for aftermarket springs, do some searching on the links. There are a few places that have a better rep. than rr does.

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da_mtg_man

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2008, 06:34:15 PM »
Alright, Help me out here. I've seen the acronym SPOA several times. The only thing I can think of is Spring over axle?

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phloop

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2008, 06:53:29 PM »
SPOA= SPring Over Axle, just an older term for SOA which is Spring Over Axle also.

When I first got my Zuki and started modding it, that was the acronym used for a spring over lift. It has just stuck. ;D

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Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2008, 06:58:02 PM »
your in Tampa?
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da_mtg_man

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2008, 07:12:40 PM »
your in Tampa?

St.Pete but 15 min from Tampa.

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Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 04:41:46 AM »
Are the springs flat or starting to invert? they're pretty flat from the factory.
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da_mtg_man

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 04:49:07 AM »
There just flat, Not inverted at all.

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kingzoo

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 08:29:49 AM »
  da magic the gathering man ?

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da_mtg_man

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 09:27:46 AM »
  da magic the gathering man ?

lol... The maytag man............... ;D

Seriously, "The Mortgage Man"  = Da_Mtg_Man

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Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008, 06:10:46 PM »
Wait... these things are supposed to have positive arch from the factory?

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Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2008, 04:57:53 AM »
Wait... these things are supposed to have positive arch from the factory?

:P

The rears have some arch on them the fronts are very nearly flat. If they were arched on the front then the axle would try to move forwards when you hit a bump.
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da_mtg_man

Re: New guy and a couple questions
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2008, 06:50:42 PM »
Ok, I found some cj7 front and rear leafs for $15. Will these work and if so what kind of welding am I gonna have to do?