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Driveability off a kick with a sami front lock right.

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Driveability off a kick with a sami front lock right.
« on: November 10, 2006, 11:47:16 AM »
Hi Guys,
I am about to do this installation but the lock right salesman warned me that driveability will be severily compromissed.
I want to do it but now I am afraid I will regret it, you guys that run this setup could tell me how bad will this be?
My car is a daily driver and I run it hard on trail, mainly mud and dirt.
I want some feedback from you that runs it will it unlock easily?
       Thanks
        Gui
mudding aroung : ) in counryside São Paulo.

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Re: Driveability off a kick with a sami front lock right.
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 05:13:33 PM »
i have installed lockrites in samurais befor, when the hubs are in the free position, all will be fine, its impossible to feel them when its free.  But when you turn your hubbs to lock be prepared for some real stiff turning, and when i mean stiff its like two arms crankin away at all times. if you have power steering, its a lot easyer but still steers funny.

The sammies have birfields in the front, there pretty prone to breaking, but if your just going to be in the mudd and dirt you shouldnt have that big of a problem. its just when you start getting onto rocks where the birfs decide to give up the go.

well i hope this helps you out some what.

Millski
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Re: Driveability off a kick with a sami front lock right.
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2006, 12:11:23 PM »
Hi garbage,

I have done this mod and would do it again & again & again & again etc etc ( you get the picture  ;) )

Driving goes something like this:
If it gets in the way then just drive over it without fuss  ;D
Mud and dirt - don't even notice is there until you lift a front wheel and you just don't stop  ;D
Rocks and rutty ( and I mean severe ruts  :o ) - pick your line and go for it. Your vehicle will climb until it falls over if you want   :P. If the traction is there it is damn hard to stop a locked up Kick really ( I am assuming you drive in an appropriate fashion of course, eg: you drive around things that will belly you out ).

My only gripe - when you are descending down a really tight trail and it is pretty steep the locker tends to resist your steering input because the force being applied effectively locks it slightly ( a lot of weight is transferred to the front end in descents ). Solution: Give it a small amount of gas to unlock it temporarily OR drop back into 2WD for the turn ( I have not had to do this yet on my Kick though but it will work if needed. Had to do it on my Sammie occasionally because of no power steering ).

So far we have been running front lockrites with the aluminium and stock cv's etc with no breakages, so the front end will last for a while. HOWEVER we will be upgrading to steel pretty soon because we know the alloy will eventually break apart. We drive to survive but if you saw some of the trails we run you would not think so - lockers, a mans best freind  >:D

Our vehicles are 135hp V6 Kick autos running 33" Wranglers. The auto is very kind to drive train components and this helps keep the alloy together. If you are running a manual tranny then consider steel and cv / half shaft upgrades sooner than later.

Hope this helps.

ZeusZuki  8)
1600 Escudo / Kick, beam front, coils all round, 37 MTR's, 97" wheelbase, locked fr & rr,twin stick, front stock ratio, Calmini 5.14 t box rear, Warn XD9000i winch, blah blah!

2.0 V6 auto, Calmini 3" kit, 33" jandles, LT struts, blah blah

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Re: Driveability off a kick with a sami front lock right.
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2006, 07:27:46 PM »
ZeusZuki,
thanks man... I have already  ordered them : )
Pretty sure I will learn how to deal with it... and I have power steering too.
I have already bought a full Grand Vitara steel housing, I will have to upgrade to 26 splines and the smie carrier and I drive an auto... so I guess I am sort of on the safe side : ) and my tyres are kind small... and I plan only on some 31'' mudzillas, I now ride 235/75 r15.
               Thanks a lot
                  Gui
mudding aroung : ) in counryside São Paulo.