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Offline red_baron

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Re: lockers?
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2004, 08:56:40 AM »
i have just recently had a lockrite put in the rear of my lwb vitara (tracker) and as of yet have had no adverse handling problems.
i love it off road though.
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2004, 08:58:48 AM »
well if I drive on lets say Ice and go through a corner

if I accelerate through will it lock on me and will I fishtail?

Do they make a locker which is not quite as sensitive and will only lock once enough torque is applied?
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2004, 09:33:47 AM »
I for one would luv to see eaton get their e-locker availble for more applications
http://www.traction.eaton.com/prod1.htm

It sounds like a perfect "demand" based locker (aka ARB), but electronic accuated rather than air (aka ARB). I could see them giving ARB some competition, but they have so few applications ...

But ... to stay on topic, I'm thinking mini-spool unless I can hunt down a good deal.

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Re: lockers?
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2004, 12:15:13 PM »
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well if I drive on lets say Ice and go through a corner

if I accelerate through will it lock on me and will I fishtail?


Fishtail, naw that will bring the ass end all the way around
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Do they make a locker which is not quite as sensitive and will only lock once enough torque is applied?


Nope, it's all in the skinny pedal
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2004, 12:17:45 AM »
I was thinking in this case then
could I install an LSD in the front and rear
and put an arb still in the rear?

for the front LSD, do you guys know where to source one?

for a newer 03' style?
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2004, 10:38:25 AM »
i have been running lockrights front and rear for a while now.no problems on road and awesome offroad.
I LOVE MY LOCKRIGHTS!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2004, 11:58:03 AM »
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...if I accelerate through will it lock on me and will I fishtail?

My point exactly. Imagine going downhill and through a corner when that happens, zero traction in the rear. Lockers are great but the one free wheel in a open diff gives you directional stability on ice. Lock the front and rear then drive on my road in the winter and it's not if you'll crash, it's when. But, to each his own. :)
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2004, 04:43:40 AM »
You guys must drive ninty miles an hour on ice  :'( I live at 4800 ft. and drive in ice all the time, if you have that much ice put the loc-rites in and put studded tires on it and don't road race it. there is transitional ice here twice a day that is slicker than snot for a couple of hours in the am. and a couple of hours in the pm. you just have to go slow in that stuff, when the ice gets hard again you can go back to your road racing  ;D lsd diffs are just what it says (limited) they suck off road and will still break loose on real slick ice.
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2004, 07:27:46 AM »
I honestly have heard way too many things regarding either or

from what I have determined
If driving slowly, relatively straigh through very icy conditions/very deep snow
a locker is going to be wicked as it is basically a spool (especially both front and rear)

if driving on patchy ice, need to be able to accelerate through a turn w/ slippery conditions
a LSD is desired as a locker will just basically spin you right around


so tell me, if I install the 10 bolt lsd into the rear
can I install a electric locker or an ARB?

i'm sure that is much more expensive but I think safer
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2004, 07:31:44 AM »
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You guys must drive ninty miles an hour on ice...

Not me. :P When it snows around here I leave my driveway I go downhill on solid ice for 1.5 miles and some of it is over a 30* decent. Our local highway department is nice enough to polish it with their snowplow every morning too. ;) I've had every type of vehicle come sliding through my yard in the winter. Seems like the people around here with built 4-bys think that they are invincible on snow and ice. 4x4's climb better on ice but going downhill they slide just as bad as a 4x2 if not driven correctly, I have the tracks in my yard every spring to prove it. ;D
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Re: lockers?
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2004, 09:10:21 AM »
I also like manual lockers.I have a Detroit EZ on the rear axle and a Calmini LSD on the front(70% or75%) not torsen type but friction type.I would install an EZ in the front too,but because of we have have lots of mud here,I think a manual locker in front is no good.No steering when driving in mud.
Please someone ,persuade me that a manual locker in the front is the best when driving in the mud. :)

Anyway,with this combination,my truck proved extremely capable on every terrain.
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