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Gear reduction for Kick?
« on: January 23, 2005, 09:46:24 AM »
     Is there a gear reduction for a Sidekick?  Need advice!  My '92 Sidekick with locker in the rear seems like it has enough traction with a rear locker but not enough torque to pull the weight up some hills.  And that's only with 235 tires.  I want to go up to 31" eventually.  Its an automatic so that probably doesn't help.  Been in mud sometimes when there just wasn't enough power to spin the wheels enough to clean em out.  I've got a 2" inch exhaust with no cat and turbo muffler and I think I need a header to balance that out.  Would that help too?  
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2005, 11:15:01 AM »
With auto the gears are 4:625

You could install 5:625 gears in the axles and then sell the 4:625's

I just so happen to have a front and rear set of Tracker 5:625 third members if your interested

Contact directly if you are interested

Kerry Wittig/SOS
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2005, 11:38:39 AM »
Or find some 5.12's from any manual sidekick and install them in place of your 4.62's.
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2005, 11:45:42 AM »
   Are all manual Sidekicks 5.12s?  If I'm going to change them out, I might as well go as low as I can.
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2005, 12:01:38 PM »
i think all manuals, 89-98 are 5.12 or 5.13s... plus those 4.62's can get a decent price from sami guys, 5.13s are a bit too much of a sacrifice on the highway for most, but on a trackick it would be awesome with those tires
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2005, 12:07:47 PM »
I just got done with my 4.62 -> 5.12 change in my trac. (an automatic running 31's). Test run today on the hwy climbing a fairly steep hill had a top speed of 65, and I'm happy with that ...
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2005, 12:16:32 PM »
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  Are all manual Sidekicks 5.12s?  If I'm going to change them out, I might as well go as low as I can.


No they are not.... Some 4 door manuals are 5:625
« Last Edit: January 23, 2005, 12:17:05 PM by kerrywittig »
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kerrywittig

Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2005, 12:19:20 PM »
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i think all manuals, 89-98 are 5.12 or 5.13s

One and the same actual ratio is 5:125
5:12 & 5:13 are just rounding it off
Ring gear 41 teeth
Pinion 8 teeth
41 divided by 8 = 5:125............My 2 cents
« Last Edit: January 23, 2005, 12:21:26 PM by kerrywittig »
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »
I just swapped my auto over to 5.12's after blowing up my front diff with 31's. made a world of difference onthe road, still haven,t gotten a chance to test offroad other than in my back yard.
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2005, 12:28:25 PM »
Repost:

Trackick:

4.30- Ca model 16v 2 door auto
4.62- 2 door auto and 91 only 4 door 8v
5.12- all 1.6 5 speed 2 doors and all 4 doors, auto and manual, except 91 8v 4 doors
5.38- 91 8v 5 speed 4 door only
5.62- 89 1.3 5 speed only

Sammy
3.73- all swb  
3.90- all lwb, including pickups

Trackers/Vitaras/Grand Vitaras
4.10- all 5 speeds
4.88- all autos

XL-7
5.12- manual and auto


My only extra input to this is that most if not all 3 speed auto trucks came with 4.62's. If you have a 4 Speed (with overdrive) you have 5.12's.
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kerrywittig

Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2005, 12:31:42 PM »
OK....I've learned not to question here*

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I got the 5:625'S out of a 92/93 4 door that as far as I knew was stock...must have been modified,,,,,,,me bad
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2005, 12:32:47 PM »
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Or find some 5.12's from any manual sidekick and install them in place of your 4.62's.



I'll rephrase this.

Or find some 5.12's from any NORMAL manual sidekick  ;) and install them in place of your 4.62's.

LOL.

the 1.3L in 89, and the 8 valve 4 door 5 speed don't count as NORMAL.

;D
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2005, 12:34:25 PM »
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OK....I've learned not to question here*

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I got the 5:625'S out of a 92/93 4 door that as far as I knew was stock...must have been modified,,,,,,,me bad



You know, sometimes I think they guys at the suzuki plant were just screwing off sometimes.

I guess it wouldn't surprise me to learn something new. Let's just say that's not NORMAL.. (referring to above post)..  ;D
« Last Edit: January 23, 2005, 12:35:04 PM by hcgalvin »
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2005, 12:34:46 PM »
5.62- 89 1.3 5 speed only
is that a typo? or just a very rare or foreign version of a trackick... or maybe a sami
either way, i figure those gears would be worth a fair bit
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Re: Gear reduction for Kick?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2005, 12:36:01 PM »
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5.62- 89 1.3 5 speed only
is that a typo? or just a very rare or foreign version of a trackick... or maybe a sami
either way, i figure those gears would be worth a fair bit



Nope, not a typo, just a VERY early production 89 is my guess.
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