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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2003, 02:40:53 PM »
Look at Hagen's archives. There is an article on the install of his 9" there.
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2003, 03:16:21 AM »
I'm really interrested in the full floating zuki rear.  I would rather keep it zuki then start puting ford and chevy parts in my cute little trucklet.  I'm planing on selling my eclipse and start really building the zuki so i'll have to save some cash for the rear.  I was just going to get one from the junk yard and shave, rotate, truss and disk brake it.  but mabey make it full floating too.  ;D  thanks Wild.  lata stu
   

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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2003, 07:40:16 AM »
If your going to be doing all that work, you
might as well do a floater as well, the biggest
expence is the Axle Shafts, but we can make
some that are bullet proof, say bye bye twisted
axles  ;D , I'm going for some 30 spline and larger
Dia, they will require a larger set of side gears, or
if you go for a ARB you could get the custom fit
side gears from ARB and put them in the locker.
Now a set of hubs to match and you got a bullet
proof rear end, at least until mike gets hold of it.
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2003, 07:52:49 AM »
Ohh BTW I forgot to mention, I think this mod will
work with the same parts on a Sammie Axle too.
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2003, 12:15:32 PM »
I ran into a small snag with the larger axle shafts,
turns out the spindles might not have a big enough
Dia. hole to fit too much larger axles, but on the
bright side, the custom axles are much stronger than
the stock ones.

Axles will cost $400 for the pair, and add cost for brackets
for the disks, hubs for the rear, calipers from a saturn and
spindles you about have the total, less than $700 for parts.
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2003, 12:19:43 AM »
Since the axles will be custom anyway, add an ARB and use the 27 spline Dana sidegears in it.

In the hubs, use Toyota hubs.  Same hub but a larger spline and diameter.  This should make it bolt-on and use a bigger shaft.
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2003, 01:46:23 AM »


Thanks  Tim,
I was wanting to go to a 30 spline axle,
the axle maker said they pretty much
come in standard dia/spline configuration
so the problem will be the max size dia
for the axle shaft.

Thanks for the heads up on the Dana side gears,
without knowing the max dia I can go I didn't
search out the side gears yet, but the ARB was
one thing I wanted to do, as well as bigger side gears.

How many splines do Toy hubs have?  27?

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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2003, 05:26:52 PM »
Thanks to member TN_Tracker who posted the link to the
care of lockout hubs, very informative, and a good
thing to know about. According to the article, the torque
IS transfered through the 6 bolts at the base of
the hub, so strong bolts must be used there.
Also the guts of various Aisin hubs like Toyota, Nissan, Isuzu ect.
use are in many cases interchangeable, which for our discussion
about larger axles and full floater upgrades is a good thing.

Turns out Toyota Does use some 30 spline hubs, a perfect
donor hub for the rear of the full floater to be made as strong
as it can be, might even be Mike proof  ;D (shamless jab ;)  )
anyway, great stuff, I would reccomend this article for reading
as it covers how to go about maintaining and rebuilding an
often neglected part of our trucks, but one which if let go
could leave you stuck or even stranded if the hubs fail to lock.

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For Your Reading Pleasure........
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/aisin/
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2003, 02:26:42 AM »
The tech article says the Toy IFS uses a 26 spline hub.  Is that the same diameter 26 as the Kick uses?  Would make for an easier install, keeping the shaft 26 spline a both ends, but I doubt itwould be that easy, they've gotta be a different diameter.
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2003, 03:34:42 AM »
Well Tim, of the limited amount of what I know
about Axle Shafts, I was told by a guy at Dutchbrothers
that they are a fairly uniform the size to spline ratio,
then he rattled off some sizes and dashed my hopes for
36 spline axle by informing me the opening in the spindle
will only go so big, :(   so I started downsizing to 27s or ???

I don't know how big of an axle can be fit in the spindle, a
little boreing of the opening might work to get one more
spline. I know it doesn't sound like much but 1 more = about
1/8" increase in axle Dia. which means more beef for twistin,
and less snappin.

I'm waiting for some parts now to proceed with the development,
I'll keep posting my findings as they come, I want to go to SJS :)
(EJS) this year, so all you lookie loos can check it out, if I can pull
it off, other wise I might need some spares too  :o  LOL.

Darrin
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Re: Full Floating Rear Axle Useing Sidekick Parts
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2003, 06:01:14 PM »
they wild i think you might find this link useful.  http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/drivetrain/ttfloater/floater.htm  lata stu
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