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Front end still hot after Bearings repacked / greased, whirling noise Sidekick

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Offline Skyhiranger

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Maybe CV/spindle has too much play...  When  I had all 4 wheels off the ground and I put the E-BRAKE (lock the back wheels) on and 4 low the front wheels were shaking pretty good, when I gassed it.  (If that means anything?)



I have a problem with the above statement.  Are you saying that when you had it in 4wd (with the wheels off the ground), and the ebrake was on, that the rear tires would not move, but the front ones would?
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Offline Skyhiranger

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I reread the thread again and if I understand correctly....the wheels/hubs only get hot with it in 4wd and/or the hubs locked in, right?  If the hubs are not turned to "lock" or the tcase is not in 4wd, then the wheels/hubs do not get hot, right?
If that is the case, then it sounds like a problen with where the axleshaft comes through the spindle.  Like wildgoody said, there is a brass bushing inside the spindle.  If, for some reason, there is no grease on that bushing, then it is possible that the axleshaft is grinding against that bushing and causing things to heat up.
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Offline sohip

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I think you are right about this bushing.  I will have to look at it this weekend.  Will it basicly be taking  the same parts, apart as the bearing or can I just pull the whole spindle off ?

When I got the other bearings I mixed up which ones came with the races.

When I had it off the ground in 4HI and the ebrake on the front tires only would spin.  Is this supposed to be impossible ?  Maybe I grabbed the wrong cigrette out of my pack  :o

The tires spin great when off the ground... just a little drag from rubbing on the brake but nothing in the bearings area

Thanks for the help

 
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Offline Medford

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The e-brake only locks up the rear end.  So having only the front spinning makes sense.  The heat is the wonderment.
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Offline Skyhiranger

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The e-brake only locks up the rear end.  So having only the front spinning makes sense.

No, it doesn't.  If the tcase is in 4wd, then at least 1 tire on each axle is supposed to spin....think about it. ;)
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Offline sohip

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Ok, This could be very true because I only looked from the drivers side.  So the front right (passenger)  could have been wheeling.  I was just looking out the drivers side, pushing on the gas.

I actually looked at a new bearings at NAPA and holy Sh*t. It looks like one piece bearing (2) and the race.  Mine all just all came apart in my hands.



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Uhh, you got wasted bad bearings, those weren't fit to beat your
dog with, good thing you were paying attention, it could of got real bad
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sky,  school me up here, I am an open ear student.  The E-brake is not mechanical linkage that only locks the rear?  Be gentle here you have a new impressionable student.
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In 4wd both front and rear drive shafts must turn, so if the parking brake
is set, one rear wheel must turn if the front is turning, unless you have a
locker, then both rear wheels will turn against the brake and turn the front
drive shaft and at least one front wheel

Hope this makes sense

Wild
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Offline Skyhiranger

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sky,  school me up here, I am an open ear student.  The E-brake is not mechanical linkage that only locks the rear?  Be gentle here you have a new impressionable student.

In 4wd both front and rear drive shafts must turn, so if the parking brake
is set, one rear wheel must turn if the front is turning, unless you have a
locker, then both rear wheels will turn against the brake and turn the front
drive shaft and at least one front wheel

Hope this makes sense

Wild

What wild said.
Yes, the ebrake is a mechanical linkage that locks the rear tires.  But...
The front and rear axles (driveshafts) are locked together, when the tcase is in 4wd.  So if one tire on one axle is turning (via engine power), then at least one tire on the other axle must turn as well.
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Offline Medford

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Makes perfect sense.  I was not including the transfer case factor.  At times I can be a bit of a tard, and other times I can really be a tard.  I get what you guys are saying.
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So I guess with the Ebrake (and gassing) I was just smoking my brake lining on the passenger side when I had it in the air, oops..

Anyway, I was too busy to do anything with the bearing issue but I picked up a whole parts kick for 200 bucks from just up the road.  The guy kept blowing the fuel injector fuse and just gave up on it.  Its exactly like mine but has power windows but rust-ola to the max. I dont even think its worth messing with, Ill just pull out the motor/axels ditch the body.  Ill pull all odds and ends I can get out in a day.  Finally I can get a new glovebox latch (drives me crazy) and good door handle maybe even get my fuel gauge working :laugh:
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Tip Of The Day ............
Don't ever slam your glove box shut, close it nice by pulling the handle when you close it
and it will last for 21 years like mine has  ;)
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Offline slow4x4

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my 97 tracker is doing the same thing 2wd no whirling sound hubs locked anything about 10 mph it starts making that same noise, gotta do the bearings i guess good thing i stumbled upon this thread
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Tip Of The Day ............
Don't ever slam your glove box shut, close it nice by pulling the handle when you close it
and it will last for 21 years like mine has  ;)
I've kinda used that same philosophy with every car I've ever driven...always makes perfect sense.
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