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Offline museboy07

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Could i clear 31s?
« on: April 21, 2007, 12:55:13 PM »
Im gettin 2in coil spacers and 4door springs on my 94 2dr track.  dont worry im gettin all the drop brackets and spacers but do you think i could clear 31in AT's or should I just go with 30in MT's?  Its a weekend wheeler/DD  so what would you do? 
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2007, 02:01:31 PM »
If it's for the trails I'd do a cheap 3" box tube body lift, cost you less than 40bux! Or just trim the fenders a bunch.
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2007, 02:21:38 PM »
you prob can clear 31's with very little trimming or rubbing, your choice.
I would make or buy a 3 inch body lift and then you wont have to worry about rubbing or cutting. I have a 2 inch spacer lift with a 3 inch body lift and can fit 32's
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2007, 08:44:56 PM »
see the thing is my rig is rusted underneath..pretty bad..i would have a hard time getting the body mounts out..and dont wanna put 150 bucks into it for a bodylift..anyone know a link to a homeade 2 or 3in bodylift? thanks!!
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2007, 08:50:27 PM »
I agree w/fletcher. I use a 2" spacer and 3" body lift and with a little trimming can fit 265/75/16 MTs. They are 32", so you should be able to fit them or 31s easily. If you are going to drive it daily you might want to only go with the 31s. I have the dohc 1.8L and it does not like pulling those 32's very easily. With the 1.6, and daily driven, I'd stick with a little smaller tire!! By the way I hope you like your spacers!! You should get them the first part of next week, I shipped them on 4/20.
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 09:10:02 PM »
i can clear 32's fine with just a 3" suspension lift and minimal trimming, but im currently running 31's. so...i say you can easily clear the 31's.  and why spend money and time on a body lift when you can just trim a little off the front fenders? i trimmed mine with a dremel.  :) just cost me about 45 minutes.
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2007, 09:20:45 PM »
Quote from: museboy07 on April 21, 2007, 08:44:56 PM
see the thing is my rig is rusted underneath..pretty bad..i would have a hard time getting the body mounts out..and dont wanna put 150 bucks into it for a bodylift..anyone know a link to a homeade 2 or 3in bodylift? thanks!!

http://www.granitepath.com/~irving/suzuki/budgetbodylift/index.htm
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2007, 07:52:27 AM »
If your rig is rusting, I think you should stick to a suspension lift like you said.  Before i did the 2'' body lift i ran 31x9.50's with just 1.5'' coil spacers and had minimal rubbing on the firewall, and on the rear mud guard.
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 08:13:00 AM »
Get yourself a can of PB BLASTER  and start squirting all the body mount bolts .
do it once a week for three weeks.  clean the bolts with a wire brush.
all should come off with ease.  you can make a body lift pretty easy.  1",2",3" or 6"
do what you want.  mine I un-bolted and blocked it up temperarily with different
thicknesses to see what I liked.Why chop the fenders if you do't need to.
cheaper is not always the best way.
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007, 09:57:28 AM »
Trim it a little, beat the floorboards back JUST A LITTLE, and skip the body lift.

I know it's a well accepted method of fitting a little bit bigger tire, and moving your rockers a little bit further away from damage... but..

it might just be me, and no offense to those with body lifts.... but....

yuck.  I just can't do it.  I really hate the look of body lifts. All that frame showing, and no ground clearance gained, and center of gravity raised.. (I know, I know, you guys with body lifts have never had a problem with that and all...)  Shifters sitting lower, or extended, geometries changed..  I know I sound like a broken record, and I am mostly a trail guy, I do drive my "turtle" on the street, but I certainly don't care about dents and trail rash, or trimmed fenders, etc...  but, did I mention I hate body lifts??

Since you have a rusted buggy anway, skip the body lift, and do a little trimming.  Do you think my green Kick looks horrible with the trimming I did?  I am certainly no body man, but I think it looks just fine for a trail rig, and with a little more care, and some fender flares, it would look pretty freaking nice done this way/..


I guess my point is, why get a body lift when you don't really need one?  31's will fit without one, so... what is the benefit of screwing around with a body lift, when you don't need one, and they especially since they don't really add any function or advantage that isn't more easily accomplished with a little trimming, and rocker/rock slider innovation. There are several methods that looks good, to protect your rocker areas, that don't require a body lift, and don't detract from ground clearance and breakover angles.


The only time I would consider a body lift is if I had a mint vehicle that I wanted to put big tires on without trimming... uh.. oh yeah.. what point is there in putting big tires on something you aren't going to take off road? So, in other words, I don't think I would ever put a body lift on anything, as it doesn't add anything to trail riding, and detracts plenty, in my opinon.. but then again, I am a hard head, and not too politically correct.


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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2007, 11:42:50 AM »
Quaddawg makes some good points for sure.

I am in the same situation as Museboy. Right now I have a 97 4 door Kick with a 1.5" coil spring spacer lift and 29" tires (235/75/15). By the end of the year I want to be sitting on 31" tires, but I don't want to shell out big bucks for a Calmini or Boondox lift. I was thinking of making a 2" body lift but I seem to have quite a bit of tire-fender clearance as it is right now. I took a look at the rear fender area and it doesn't look like you can trim that much without screwing up the part where the rear doors attach to...maybe I'm just looking at it wrong, can someone explain?
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007, 06:23:32 PM »
I have a 97 4dr also. A body lift will help, and you are right you can't trim much off the rear fenders. If you look closely you can just trim right where the plastic molding meets the front corner and you can cut at least an inch from both front and back. You really do not need to cut much out to get 245/75 or even 265/70-75 under it. But with the 4drs. a 2-3" body lift is almost needed to get bigger tires under it. The trouble with 265 tires is also the width!! They will almost for sure rub the shocks, coils, brake lines and anything else inside the wheel. I ordered 1.5" wheel spacers and with these I should be able to put on the 264/75/16s. That tire is considered a 32" so it is possible to get those under a 4dr. As far as body lifts go, Masterkit makes a pretty good one, it was easy to install and includes front and rear bumper relocation brackets.
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 06:59:29 AM »
As far as the body lift goes, the PB Blaster and wire brush method is very effective. I did the same with my 94 kick and they spun off easily with an impact. I made my spacers out of a piece of 3" x 4" light gauge tube 2 1/2 " long. I got the metal from a local pipe and tube place in Columbus, Oh (Columbus Pipe and Supply on Markison Ave) I would PB the crap out of the body bolts and try to loosen them all before commiting to a body lift. If they won't come loose forget the body lift and do something else. Also, since the body bolts stay in the body and stick downwards, I cut a slot in the top of the tube sections and slipped them in so I didn't have to jack up the body as far. Make sure you either replace or Locktite the nuts on the body bolts so they don't come loose on you.

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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 07:21:31 AM »
If your rig was as rusty as mine was then stay away from a body lift ! My 89 was very rusted and I was able to get the body mounts loose whith PB Blaster and some work . After doing the homemade body lift though my rig only lasted about 3 months before every body mount either rusted loose or shoved up through the floor . I would never do a body lift on a rusty trail rig again. Maybe on a clean mall crawler but thats about it !
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Re: Could i clear 31s?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2007, 08:43:37 PM »
I have a question, I just ordered the calmini 3" body lift kit, I have a 96 Kick 4-door, will I need to extend the steering shaft or should it be fine, and also, what would happen if I left my shifters the same?
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