Know what you mean, but people on here lik zig / wild and others have som narly trail rigs, dont know if they drive them every day, but presume they do not. For me i want a bit more agressive wheels, snorkel, and a lift so i dont drownd it out, i like crossing mudholes - rivers to get back to that perfect fishing hole, but i also want to keep close to stock mileage. Cause i drive it every day.
anyway what do you want out of the rig, they are perfectly good off road stock, just not as good as they could be.
bus_driver is right