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Offline museboy07

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clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« on: May 28, 2007, 06:55:38 PM »
I just got my 2in coil spacers in now something in my front end clunk when i make a sharp turn...usually at slow speeds.  My camber is way out till i get the bolts...coul this hae something to do with it?  Im thinking the sharp turn is just put alot of stress on my cv's...not sure tho
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007, 07:18:16 PM »
This COULD be normal with the alignment that far out, but sounds like the CVs are going out to me. I don't know why anyone would do the lift without correcting the camber - it's dangerous.
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 07:34:16 PM »
If the coil spacers are actually 2" up front, the clunk is probably the cv's. They are probably not up to the task of handling the angles caused by your 3+ inches of front lift without any diff drop...
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 07:42:34 PM »
Jeremiah..

what are the risk factors of the camber bein out?  This will only be till my bolts come in

Digger..

Many people use 2in spacers up front..John1974 has 3in lift coils up there with no diff drop and no problems...i guess im just one of the unlucky ppl in this world
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2007, 05:13:02 PM »
Just a thought, are the tires hitting the frame at full lock?
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 06:39:31 PM »
no real "DANGER" in having camber to far positive or negative, but you will burn though tires like crazy, and if cross caber is not in spec your truck will pull.  just go to you local tire shop and have 'em through it on the alignment rack.  the 100-150 dollars they will charge you to fix it right.  just make sure you go to a reputable shop that will do an inspection, repace broken parts and give a warranty
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 08:24:36 PM »
Good news guys..well sorta.  I took the 'ol tracker in for an alignment (I'm an auto student so I was doing it myself)  and when i got it all racked up i saw something that horrified me.  The steel tubing that is welded to both of the front control arm brackets were CRACKED!!!  I thought to myself "Oh Shit!!"  Well anyway a guy i know came in and took a look at it and said "shit i can weld that back together" lol.  I told him to go for it.  What he did was weld 1/4" steel plates on both sides from steel tubing to the brackets that the front of the control arms bolt to.  After this was all finished i took it out for a drive and no more clunks when I turned sharp.  I was so happy!!  I thought i might be towin this thing to the scrap yard..nope!  Let me tell you all how this must of happed (cracking the front frame)

Well, it was the day after i got my 2in coil spacers in (yesterday) and I was with my girlfriend and decided to see what the 'ol tracker could do.  So I went up into some local trails and was goin about 10mph in 4Low.  All of a sudden...BOOM!!  The tracker smashes to a complete stop!!  I thought to myself SHIT!! I got out to see I rammed a foot tall tree stump with my front right tire.  I was worried i blew out a tire but was surprised to see it was fine...I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD CRACK THE FRAME!!  I'm glad I saw the crack today cause I could of seriously got hurt because two control were only bein held on by strut and ball joints.  Oh well its all fixed so now i just gotta watch out for them damn tree stumps...those little bastards!! lol
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 05:30:08 AM »
Quote from: museboy07 on May 28, 2007, 07:42:34 PM
Digger..

Many people use 2in spacers up front..John1974 has 3in lift coils up there with no diff drop and no problems...i guess im just one of the unlucky ppl in this world

I also know of one person that has 3" coil spacers shoved in the front and back as well as huge strut extensions and he didn't bother to lower the diff at all. That Tracker's CV's lasted about 3 trail days total and I've never seen it back since. I'm not talking out of my a$$, I am speaking from personal experience. If you lift the front more than 2" to 2-1/2" total (or a max of a 1-1/2" front spacer) without lowering the diff, it's just a matter of time before you have problems.  How soon the problems will show up depends on the age and wear of your CV's. If you have well-greased like-new ones, they might work just fine for a year or more at an extreme angle, but if you have the factory original ones with 100K miles or more on them, they might only last a month...
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 03:04:07 PM »
Ok Digger, I'm gonna listen to you cause I know you have more trail experience then me.  I'm gonna see if anyone wants to trade my 2in front spacers for some 1.5inchers and if not i'll buy some.  But thanks for helpin me out.  Feels good to know theres ppl like you out there. 
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 06:33:02 PM »
museboyo7, if you want a pair of 1.5" spacers for the front I'll send you some for $20 that includes shipping. Send me your address again and I'll hook you up before you tear the cv's up!!
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Custom strut spacers
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 06:44:05 PM »
ok i'll get back to you next week for them spacers when i get paid.  But what sucks is i did my alignment today and had my strut bolts welded to some washers for a permanent camber fix.  Oh well i need new struts anyway...ill get back to you jeff!!
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 07:38:47 PM »
OUCH!! sounds like the hits just keep coming for you. No hurry at all, just let me know. Maybe we can work something out, I might need some parts or something. I could let a pair of spacers go cheaper. Hope all works out.
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3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 07:44:30 PM »
So your saying that 1.5" coil spacers will be fine with the CV's? I bought some awile back and I am waiting to get strut spacers and longer shocks to put them on just need to gather some motivation to do it lol.
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 08:14:41 PM »
my cvs with the 2in spacers have been fine so far...but its only the third day with them on.  But i did do some light wheelin yesterday and they held up.  I actually have a spare set of cvs so when mine do break if they do...ill email you jeff...and what parts might you need?
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Re: clunk in front end when i turn sharp??
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 08:57:53 PM »
Quote from: museboy07 on May 30, 2007, 03:04:07 PM
I'm gonna see if anyone wants to trade my 2in front spacers for some 1.5inchers
Just trim them on a band saw  ;D If you don't have one, go to a woodworking shop, and pay the guy $10 to do it ;)
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