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Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.

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Offline Uncivilized

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2006, 06:40:33 PM »
Woah, no wonder they scrapped the idea.....

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2006, 07:29:38 PM »
it might look better if you smashed it into a tree and had ALOTof mud on it.. hmmmmmm maybe not.. it's still frickin ugly....lol
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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2006, 08:07:26 PM »
i thought the color scheme was for a release at halloween.

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2006, 06:25:12 AM »
Common guys, it was a Jeep/Chrysler product.  Weak axles, high gearing, low powered engines, bad gas mileage, nice design ruined by crappy production result, unitized hub bearings that fail, probably an air activated front diff, ummm...should I continue?


Oh yeah, and the Raider was bigger than a Track/Kick.  A Raider was just a rebadged Montero/Pajero.  They were about the same size as a Bronco II, S10 Blazer, 2 door Cherokee, Trooper, etc.  There was one in the paper a while before I found my Tracker and thinking it might be a possibility I looked into it.  I was surprised by the size, I too remembered them being smaller, but I guess I was wrong.  It was a rattle trap anyways so I walked away fast...

Your description above sounds like a newer Trackvit with the air activated front diff and high gearing and weak engine description.  Every Jeep I've driven has a very low low range compared to my Tracker or Montero Sport.

Awhile back I parked next to an older Montero and it seemed to be close to the same dimensions as my Tracker.  Today I looked at the specs on Edmunds.  It was the same width as a Trackick, but about a foot longer.  It was quite a bit heavier though, like 1300 pounds heavier.

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2006, 03:34:49 PM »
The average YJ of that era has 3.73 or 4.10 gears, some came with 3.55's.  Even with a 2.72 low range that's not that impressive.

Our front air diffs aren't famous for dying or not fully engaging.  Dodge's was so infamous they replaced it on the Jeeps.  Never figured out why they kept it on the 94-01 Rams.

My GV has something like 4.6 axle ratios and it's not lacking for power.  Maybe the powerband could be down lower but it isn't slow at any time.  The 3" taller tires on it hardly slowed it down!

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2006, 05:57:09 PM »
it was before it's time, with a bit of redisigning, it could sweep through like wildfire.   If it looked exactly like a tj only say 1500-2000 pounds lighter, it would kick butt
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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2006, 08:39:30 PM »
I believe that picture is an old testing mule for the liberty,  it is certainly not a 1989 era jeep or chrysler by any means.

Incidently, look for an article online about the new jeep wrangler......its pretty impressive but far too expensive to ever take off road.  Has electric front and rear locking diffs, electric stabilizer bar to improve onroad sway control and still allow off road articulation, three piece hard top so you dont have to take the whole thing off to get some air, new engine, diesel option, etc.....

I know we are all suzuki fans, but it is still an impressive soft top.... too bad it isnt cheaper.....

too bad suzuki doesnt make soft tops any more.......



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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2006, 12:16:15 AM »
anything new that is actually good for what we would do will be expensive we have to face it that if you really want one it will cost us or we will build an older vehicle and scavenge for parts....

it sucks that my coworkers look and my truck and then say " why don't you wash that thing" my wife knows there is no point cuz it looks the same ten minutes later. the people that sport cutes (car based suv that does not go anywhere) do not need a lo range since they will never crawl over anythnig except the rear seat since they cannot figure the back door out.

I love my trucklet and am torn between keeping it and buying a car or getting the Xterra for all round dd and light trail duty. really there is no samurai in north america or anything close to it   

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2006, 10:41:46 AM »
I wonder what will happen in 10+ years when all the trackicks are rotton/dead....... we'll have to switch over to jeeps............... :-X

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2006, 10:45:42 AM »
I wonder what will happen in 10+ years when all the trackicks are rotton/dead....... we'll have to switch over to jeeps............... :-X

No, they will still be making them in Spain.  You'll have to move though. ;)  Actuall it will be more than 10 years though.  Many 1990's are still on the road and doing well.  Since they stopped making them in 2004 you are probably good through 2020 or so.
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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2006, 01:49:08 PM »
Move south, that's my plan. 8)


Errr wait, you're in Canada...guess you can't get out of the situation without immigrating.

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2006, 04:53:45 AM »
Dont worry.  You always can buy suzuki of Santana in Spain.  Now (2005-2006) the manufacture of the Vitara under another name has begun:  Santana 300 or 350 (5p)  :o







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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2006, 12:52:16 PM »
What an infamous way to end its life >:(
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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2006, 12:57:04 PM »
I like it because of what it is vs what it has become here in the States...but GAWD are those headlights OOOOGLY! :P

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Re: Chrysler was to build a Samurai competitor.
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2006, 03:25:53 PM »
Dont worry.  You always can buy suzuki of Santana in Spain.  Now (2005-2006) the manufacture of the Vitara under another name has begun:  Santana 300 or 350 (5p)  :o

I bet it still has Santana's dodgy build quality  :(
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