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DistantSmoke

Burfield Joint Question
« on: October 17, 2007, 05:32:06 PM »
How does the axle come out of the Burfield joint on a 87 Sami front straight axle Driver's side??

I'm guessing it is held in by a circlip and I can just knock it off with a dead blow hammer or something similar???

Thanks for the help in advance ;)
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2007, 06:52:52 PM »
do a search for front axle at Ack's FAQ (link in signature below). There you will find an article on how to disassemble the front axle and remove the third member.  The method described is especially useful if you have aftermarket "Birfield rings" on your axle shafts.

Other than the circlip that can be found on the end of the axle inside the top of the manual locking hub, there is nothing holding the axle in place.  It should slide out of the housing with only a bit of persuasion.

Hope that this helps!
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2007, 07:23:07 PM »
I think he wants to pull the axle shaft out of the burf, must of broken a birff.
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2007, 01:12:14 AM »
Last stub axles I had to pull apart wouldn't come no matter what I did...

I ended up cutting off the axle with a cut-off saw, then taking apart the birfield and using a press to pop the remains of the axle out.  Took a lot of effort to get that stupid ring on the inside of the birf to finally let go. 
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 10:07:18 AM »
Put the axle in a pipe with the birf up and use gravity to help.  pound the pipe on the concrete that you don't care about.  It may take alot of hits...
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2007, 11:11:51 AM »
Thanks guys...it's not broken just doing some modification. I didn't want to ruin good parts by forcing the axle out of the Birfield joint if there was a better way to do it...i guess it's just gonna take a little muscle :) 
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 03:22:21 PM »
no muscle do it as tipover suggested. I usually stuff a piece of rag in the bottom of the pipe to stop the axle from smacking the ground when it comes out. put the birf in a pipe thats just bigger in dia than the axle shaft and longer. hold onto pipe and pick it up and slam the end of the pipe on the floor. this is usually enough to pop the axle out.

unless the birf is broken why are you disassembling it?
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2007, 06:02:30 PM »
I usually slam it against a piece of wood.  Long axles usually come apart pretty easy.  The short axles... not so much.
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2007, 06:49:05 AM »
I am narrowing the front and rear axles assemblies from a 87 Zuke to install under a 2004 Rhino. I have to take 7" out of both so that the pinion is closer to the center to line-up the driveshafts.

This will be one tuff Rhino. Lower gearing, bigger wheels, locking differentials, several inches of lift, more stable/ less likely to roll over, able to climb over whatever I want ;)
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2007, 08:35:13 AM »
How much wider are the sammi axles compared to the rhino stance?

If its not to much wider you could always just chop of the axle tubes, then weld on new ones.
So that you can get the diff housing right where you need it and keep the sammi width.  Then you would have that nice wide stance.

All that you would have to worry about is getting the axles cut down and re-splined.  Im sure any seasoned machinest with the right tools could do it.


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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2007, 10:05:30 PM »
I am taking 7" off of the drivers side of both axles which will put the pinion right where I need it and only have to have two axles cut and resplined and the wleding of the tubes will be minimal as well. I will order offset rims to get the stance that I want for stability. All in all it will be the most cost effective and labor saving way of doing it. 8)
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 09:32:25 AM »
If the drivers axles are going to be the same length as the passenger side axles why not get another pair of passenger side axles and put them in the drivers side? Save the custom machining for your next project.
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Re: Burfield Joint Question
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2007, 04:01:54 PM »
Quote from: sidekicksrock on October 22, 2007, 09:32:25 AM
If the drivers axles are going to be the same length as the passenger side axles why not get another pair of passenger side axles and put them in the drivers side? Save the custom machining for your next project.
the driver's side will still be longer than the pass side...even with 7" cut out. Basically I cut the front and rear tubes and re-weld and then have the axles cut down and re-splined. Weld on the coil over shocks-hook up the drive shafts-brakes-four link front and rear and then go climb the rocks in the wifes flower bed ;D >:D
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