Where can I source some bumper-mounted head / fog / spot lights like these (or square... or whatever):


How do you think they're mounted up? A rubber gasket, or some kind of mounting tab on the back side of the bumper?

piaa.com

they should have it.

That is one nice lookin bumper, whos is it?

Don't know. I saw it out at KOH. Went to look for the owner a few times, and couldn't locate him.

Check out Pilot Automotives two catalogs on lights - they give actual measurements and specify what light beam pattern each light produces. I am sure their lights are well built, they have head lights, tail lights even angel eye light kits.

http://www.pilotautomotive.com/pdfs/Pilot_performance_lighting1.pdf

http://www.pilotautomotive.com/pdfs/Pilot_performance_lighting2.pdf

So which is it? A fog lamp with a wide, low beam, or a drving light with a narrow far reaching beam?

Both. I like to see far & wide.

I noticed the same thing when I was looking at lights, it appears manufactures have different definitions for fog, driving and auxiliary lights.  It got so frustrating for me, if I saw lights on a truck I liked I would wait by the truck and ask the owner to fire up their lights and view for myself.

I would assume smaller diameter lights (under 3 inches) would be wide short distance beam, large diameter (5+ inch) would be long range beam or pencil beam type, this is just my opinion.

I am looking for amber fog lights to mount below the headlights for fowl weather and see ones with clear lenses listed as fog lights.  Wouldn't a clear white light worsen foul weather conditions?

Keep us posted, if I can get a pic, I will upload my lights patterns and distance from vehicle they can still reflect light off a standard bicycle reflector.

I live in Hammer country.  I'll keep an eye out for that rig and try to get some info if I do.  No mistaking that bumper.

I noticed the same thing when I was looking at lights, it appears manufactures have different definitions for fog, driving and auxiliary lights.  It got so frustrating for me, if I saw lights on a truck I liked I would wait by the truck and ask the owner to fire up their lights and view for myself.

I would assume smaller diameter lights (under 3 inches) would be wide short distance beam, large diameter (5+ inch) would be long range beam or pencil beam type, this is just my opinion.

I am looking for amber fog lights to mount below the headlights for fowl weather and see ones with clear lenses listed as fog lights.  Wouldn't a clear white light worsen foul weather conditions?

Keep us posted, if I can get a pic, I will upload my lights patterns and distance from vehicle they can still reflect light off a standard bicycle reflector.

Unfortunately there is no relationship whatsoever between size and function - it's a matter of reflector and lens design - just as an example - take a look at the the LightForce range - you can change the beam pattern with a snap-on filter.

Another lamp you can look at is the Hella 500 range (available at your local Walmart) - thre is the Hella 500, which is a fog light with a fluted lens and the Hella 500FF which is a drving light with a clear lens, both are 6" diameter and actually use the same reflector.

For what it's worth - I share your frustration when it comes to auxiliary lighting, however, I don't see it as different manufacturer's having different definitions, I see it as the less expensive manufacturers having no set standards - take a look at Pilot's website, you'll find they list the PL-203W as both a driving light with a narrow far reaching beam and a "projector fog" with a "wide, low beam much like a standard fog lamp"