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Offline wildgoody

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2005, 02:15:53 AM »
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Now what about doing that with forced induction? Or the TB work and then porking and polishing the head/intake with a turbo?


I don't think I'de take to porking the head  :o

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2005, 05:33:11 AM »
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the cooling system runs thru
the intake manifold, and that seemed like
such a pain to work with and route to the
radiator


Some Rover and BMW engines have remote thermostat housings that could make fabbing an inlet a little easier.
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2005, 07:42:03 AM »

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2005, 07:54:28 AM »
I would say $143 dollars is a bargain BUT where is the injector? Its not in the top anymore, I wonder if it is an additional cost. What about the TPS and air bypass too? At least it looks to have the correct mounting holes. I'd like to see some more details of this conversion it does look promising.
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1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2005, 08:01:36 AM »
I thought that was  a pretty good price too. All the other stuffs kinda high though, for a muddy 4X4 that gets whooped on every weekend. ;D Looks like you might bolt the stock stuff on that unit. I don't know about there #'s though. I mean,,,,, there HP thermostat isn't putting 9hp in my rig. ::) Or anyone elses unless its an all out drag car.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2005, 08:14:18 AM »
On my Big Cadi 500 into a 4dr Chev Truck project I'm looking at using Chev big block headders and cutting and welding Caddy flanges to them.  

How about modifying a Production RWD Turbo headder in similar fashion for the Track / Kick1.6L  16v.  
Turbo headders on Ebay are not to expensive, but the headder is holding lots of weight.  Would definatly need to be a good one, amybe also reinforced / braced.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2005, 08:14:39 AM by whitfield »
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2005, 08:23:19 AM »
They sell headers that will bolt up. http://www.turbinetech.ca/FrameEN.htm

Iv only got a 110 mig and didnt think you could weld cast iron anyway. And I don't feel like switching everything over to weld stainless just for a header. But I get what your saying and have wondered if I could find a header off something else that would come pretty close to fitting and just mod it. There's gota be something out there that comes pretty damn close.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2005, 06:32:32 PM »
They answer their email very quickly, unlike a lot of companies. They have some good stuff there too, the turbo headers look good, can't be cheap to set up the tooling for the level of sales they might get. Take the cast iron turbo manifold for instance.

This is their reply to my email query:

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> What injector does the throttle body require and is it supplied with it.
Item SUZ-TNT-2004, we bore out your stock part that comes with the Suzuki
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Item SUZ-TNT-2005 we sell you a 52 mm Throttle body exactly as it comes in
the Swift GT you just install you TPS on it.
If you are taking about fuel injection injectors, they are not required.

> What TPS does this require and how is the air bypass valve affected.
It is not affected because it uses the same stock valve.

> Will this setup work effectively with a stock ECU?
Yes, it works great, the Stock ECU on the Swift GT adjusts to the improved
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SUZ-TNT-6002 Performance Temp senor to obtain a richer mixture.

> Are there any adapters required for the throttle cable.
No it works completely as stock on the Suzuki Swift GT/GTi models

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2005, 02:43:37 AM »
Before you guys get all excited, that's
a MPI throttlebody, it fits the Swift GT
which is a 1.3L engine, the stock TBI
unit on the SideKick/Tracker/Vitara is
about 52mm factory, from just looking
at it, it may in fact be 48mm, but this
throttle body is not going to fit and
without a MPI injection system do
you no good.

Sorry guys
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2005, 03:12:41 AM »
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Before you guys get all excited, that's
a MPI throttlebody, it fits the Swift GT
which is a 1.3L engine, the stock TBI
unit on the SideKick/Tracker/Vitara is
about 52mm factory, from just looking
at it, it may in fact be 48mm, but this
throttle body is not going to fit and
without a MPI injection system do
you no good.

Sorry guys
Wild



That explains the missing injector. My TBI is 45mm at the butterfly. Would it bolt up to the TBI manifold, the fixings look similar. It could still be a possibility with a remotely mounted injector(s). While we're on the subject has anyone got a pic of the MPI manifold without all the bits attached?
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2005, 03:33:23 AM »
Didn't they put the 1.6 in the Swifts at one time?

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #71 on: January 25, 2005, 06:33:33 AM »
I don't think I have ever seen a Swift
with a 1.6L engine, most have 1.0L 3
cylinders, and some have the 1.3L 4 Cy

The Swift Intake Manifold is totally different
than a 1.6 TBI manifold, the MPI 1.3L looks
like a VW intake manifold, a plenum (sp) with
runners going down to the head, similar to
a 16V  Suzuki engine also, but it's one piece

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #72 on: January 25, 2005, 06:40:46 AM »
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Didn't they put the 1.6 in the Swifts at one time?


Yes but I've only seen carb or MPI on the 1.6 The early Euro GT was 115bhp carb and the GTI is MPI, I haven't seen a throttle body off one those though. The 1.6 Swift engine was just a tweaked SOHC Track/Kick lump.
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1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2005, 08:46:28 AM »
yes some of the 4 door sedans had 1.6's in them at least in Canada they did. Not sure of the type of injection though.

If you had a 16V I'm sure alot of the swift GT stuff would work.
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2005, 04:54:14 PM »
I have turbo charged and intercooled my Kick...so now I'm looking for a new injector? What about the MAP sensor and fuel pump?are the stock one's going to work okay with boost?I really like the idea of the stock ford 2.3 injector ...will it fit in my throttle body?What did you mean by needing 4 injectors...will the ecm recignize 4?

PS I just finished plumbing it today!That's why all the Q's about fuel delivery.Thanks!