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abs in rear diff
« on: October 01, 2003, 02:23:51 PM »
I'm not really a Newbie just haven't had much to say but I've read everything. ? is I just had a locker and new gears put in(yes,I had a shop do this) and the shop said the abs gear doesn't work with the new stuff.So, do I just pull out all the stuff for the abs or just unplug the abs lite?
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

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Re: abs in rear diff
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2003, 02:31:11 PM »
I'm not sure why a gear change/locker would affect the ABS as long as it's unlocked and the front axle ratio is the same as the back.  I'm not up to speed on the ABS system on the new trackers/vitaras, but every other ABS system I've dealt with is based on toothed wheels by the brake rotors to detect a lockup.  If your ABS light is on then it sounds to me like the shop probably messed up on something.  

I would probably advise pulling the fuse or relay for the ABS if it's possible to do so when you offroad and use the locker since that could possibly throw it off but even then it's pretty unlikely. Honestly there's no conceivable reason it should interfere that I can think of.  Depending how the ABS is setup on your truck if you're lucky just pulling the fuse will be all that's necessary and then all you'd be doing is running without ABS which sometimes isn't a bad thing anyway.  A good driver can outbrake ABS, it's just something thrown in there for the "unwashed masses" that don't know how to drive.  If you doubt this go see how many race cars use ABS.  If it worked better you can bet they'd use it.

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Re: abs in rear diff
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 02:42:56 PM »
 My abs had a seperate ring of gears runng around the ring gear and the shop said it doesn't fit back on with arb.Just trying to figure this part out b4 I put the 3rd member back in.
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

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Re: abs in rear diff
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2003, 02:53:18 PM »
Wow, that's got to be the most assinine engineering example I've seen on any of the trackers/kicks if that's where they put the ABS sensor wheel.  Talk about overly complicating things.  That being the case I would guess you have two options.  

If the outer diameter of the sensor wheel is being interfered with by the diameter of the new ring gear you're pretty much out of luck.  If it's something to do with the holes just not lining up you could probably get them drilled/machined out to get it to fit. I'm guessing It's probably that the inner diameter of the ring is too small to clear the ARB spool that's causing the problem though.  You might be able to get that enlarged and fix the problem, doubt it would be too expensive if that's the case.  If not, then you're going to have to live without ABS and that's about all there is to it.

If there's nothing that can be done, I'd just see if you can get away with pulling the ABS fuse out and ditching the light.  You probably don't want to have one axle of the vehicle using the ABS and the other one not, that's pretty much an accident waiting to happen.  If there's one part on the vehicle you don't want to be unpredictable it's the brakes.
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Re: abs in rear diff
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2003, 03:00:20 PM »
well the only wires for the abs went into the 3rd member.I'm not too worried about  it,I think I can rememer how to brake on my own.Now if I can only rember which pedal it was."O"Well, it would only slow me down anyways.
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Re: abs in rear diff
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2003, 09:36:07 AM »
The Abs ring does not fit on ARB. Pull the bulb! ;D

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