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Offline prd12l

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pre-running a samurai?
« on: March 30, 2004, 12:23:57 PM »
Hello....
I'am planning on buying a Sami from my neighbor to use as a "pre-run vehicle" in the 04 Baja 1000......his Sami is COMPLETELY stock.

Are Samis tough?(I have never driven one or seen one in "action")

What type of mods(suspension & "driveline",I'll worry about the motor later) would YOU recommend for "pre-run"/trail exploring?(I don't want a "rock crawler", I do, but, not if it means sh!tty handling at speeds)He told me to drive it stock with those tiny tires!(for reliability reasons, and the "headache factor" of figuring all this "suspension sh!t" out

I'am new to the Samurai, and don't know much about them(or other trucks/suspension vocab. etc.) so, any advice will help........

Anyone try the "5inch Combo lift "  from Calmini?(how is it?

Thanks
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2004, 12:31:34 PM »
the calmini lifts are nice..very well thought out

if u do any lift to the sami right u will not have bad handaling at speed...so dont wory about that end

the samis are really durable little buggers u dont really have to worry about much...cept getting blown off the road (jk)

others will be a ton more help than i am

welcome to the board =)
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2004, 01:15:39 PM »
I don't think a samurai is a good platform for prerunning. The wheelbase is too short for some of the woopty-doos and launches/jumps, the axles aren't strong enough to handle the jumps and such - and while the 1.3 is peppy in such a small vehicle, it's not a pre-runner.

As bad as it is to say this on a samurai board - I think you should look for another platform.
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2004, 04:36:40 PM »
Ahemm ..... This is a Suzuki Board  :D

you want coils for the rough stuff, Sammy
or SideKick, you can get coils for a sammy
or lift the kick, and go with it.

How fast do you pre-run the coarse ???

I've seen video, it's (the desert) not kind
to man nor machine.

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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2004, 05:09:59 PM »
I worked on a buddy's  desert pit crew a few years ago. The prerunner rig for an average budget team also doubles as a support truck for the race vehicle if needed (tires etc). There isn't much room in a Samurai. Also, we would take two or three guys from the crew to check out the route (it gets boring at the base camp). Again more problems.

Performance wise, the Samurai is sturdy. Check out the Petroworks catalog. They sponsored a Samurai that finished the 1000. The pictures of the rig look like it has a very small lift with maybe 29 inch tires.

If I were looking for a good prerunner though, I would want something with a longer wheelbase, a decent size storage capacity and COLD, no SUPER COLD (did I say cold) air conditioning. 8)
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2004, 05:50:37 PM »
O ya, you are right, A/C would be a plus  ;)

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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2004, 06:41:46 AM »
Sammys are to short & to narrow for high speed and ido mean high speed. I have owned two pree runners and raced them, and i can say that a sammy could run but not WFO if you know what i mean, im talking  80 to 100 plus over very rugh ground . But hey id like to see it :o
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2004, 11:54:15 AM »
run it if u wanna die!!!!!!!! get a s10 or rnager or toyopta truco (idsuggest toyota) and use that itll be a lot better!!
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2004, 01:22:25 PM »
I know I can't go anywhere near 60mph(offroad)......I was planning on anywhere from 10(rough, woopy,rutted)-to-45/50(on a wide dirt road)....I'am not worried about the space(buddy driving my Tacoma).....I mostly want a 4x4 to tag along to winch out/tow the Tacoma when sunk in silt, or a wash etc.

I only need to pre-run to "track" the course on my GPS, not to see how fast I can run the course........

Anyone know the team(name or website or contact info.) that finished the 1000 in the Sami?

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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2004, 01:28:40 PM »
This is from the water cooler from CAVEMAN.


I have a F-150 for sale its a baja truck all fiber glass with 5.0 ho mustang moter with hyper tech comp. headers, K&N, mass air70mm, headers, eng cage,cage in cab,baja bumpers skid plate, adjustable coils,duel 9020's, new 9in with4:11s 35.12.50s,baja mounted rear tire ,extra wheels, Sand paddles,and much more . I know its not a sammy or a tracker but its one hell of a puller  and boy shs a looker.  
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2004, 02:04:12 PM »
Hey hot rod i just noticed that your from portland. Im from Hillsboro .Anyway's you might have saw the prerunner.It's a blue F150 with black bead lock wheels, and it's allways flying a pirate flag.
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2004, 02:07:05 PM »
IM loohing to sell the truck or trade for a sammy or yota. Was that pic of your rig taken at browns camp
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2004, 04:01:11 PM »
Here is the info on the Petroworks vehicles that I can read from the catalog. The first vehicle is Javier Reyes' Sami that completed both the Baja 1000 and 2000. I can't make out the main team sponsor on the side of the Sami. The second Sami in the Catalog is listed as "the first Samurai to finish the Kartek 400." The main sponsor appears to be "Tut Tech Racing." Call Petroworks for more info or a copy of the catalog. :)
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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2004, 04:57:52 PM »
I know you were asking about a Sammy, but I can't find any pictures of the rally ones that I saw...maybe you can find a cheaper track/kick.

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Re: pre-running a samurai?
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2004, 05:01:52 AM »
That looks cool. Needs a lil lift though.
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