so you bolted that square tube to that small round cross bar at the back of the frame? and then welded your spring hangers to it?


how where you able to actually tighten the bolts without collapsing the tube?

i would keep an eye of that for sure, i have a feeling that it will rip off at some point, that rear tube is not thick at all, and normally rusts out from the inside out.

no, my sidekick does not have that small tube. My rear frame is tied togther by a peice of 1/8" steall that is box welded accross. My vehicle came with a factory tow package, so i think my frame is different that most.

this is what i had stock, no tube

The 4 door frames are different than the two doors,

So any updates and pictures on this rig? Im gathering parts to do mine now

Sorry for the late reply, I always suck at posting when I go back to school, lol. I HAVE UPDATES!!

So i have got some more parts done and on their way. My driveshafts a finshed. The front was retubed, and replaced with a 2 1/4 shaft instead of that dinky little stock pipe. I ordered my Brake lines, and shock mounts, and my shocks came. I ended up going with dosetech, or however you spell it. And the best part is i found a set of tires with less that 500 miles for $200 bucks. They are a little smaller than i hoped, but i figure i can sell them for more than i got em for, it they dont work.

Let me know what you think, is my first build lookin ok?

Oh, I also got my spare mounted! It worked perfectly, it fits a thirty three no prob.

This is the tread on the lowest tire.

Thanks guys, in a couple more days/weeks i will start making my videos again. We took my buddies 4runner out and broke it, thats why you dont send a yota to do a zuks job lol.

I got my steering and shocks done yesterday. For my rear shocks we did a tube mount that cross the inside of the frame.

more pics, and i also decided to cover my square tube bumper with the stock plastic to make it look a little cleaner.

not to bad looks like it will a nice rig. One thing I don't like is your frame extension on the front, but I have seen worst designs on other things before and held up fine. I keep getting parts for my sas, but for some reason I keep running out of money and keep selling parts. LOL

I am confused, on what you find bad about my frame extension?? Can you elaborate?

the picture I saw looked like you welded a 1/5''-2'' tall by 3'' wide square tubing about 12'' long under the cross member. I was thinking it looks like a lot of leverage. the cross member is thin and it could rip or bent after a while.

Ok, just so everyone doesn't think I am calling BS, I have never done this kind of build before, and just want to make sure my rig holds up, and am stating what i have done. the extension is 1.5" tall by 3" wide, and is tied together all the way accross the front frame. We built a box design that was square to the frame to prevent twisting, (the tubeing is 1/8" thick) we then added gussets that tie the frame extension together and prevent upward bending and the schedule 40 pipe the comes off the stinger to keep it straight. Do you really think that this is not strong enough?? Thanks for the help.

Jon K

you will eventually rip off your rear upper shock mounts, you need to make them double sheer.

and i do agree with the front frame extensions,, i am willing to bet that they will bend overtime, if not rip off.... and due to how low and long they are, you will find yourself getting hung up on rocks and stumps and things like that....

 your stinger braces wont do much to stop the bending, the angle isn't right to stop that kind of vertical movement, it will want to push everything up, the bars would have to be opposite of what they are to do what you want them to do.

not trying to be negative, just trying to help, Ive been there before, and it sucks when things break....


-Lance

What do you mean by double sheer??

And could I add additional metal stock above the extentions in the front to make them stronger?? How could i have done this different? THe extension is parralel to the front bumper and I am confused on how it will be any differnet from when the sidekick was lower. If that can get stuck on rocks, wouldn't a bumper?

double sheer means  plate on both sides of the bolt, just like your lower mounts, you need to support the other side of the bolt, otherwise the bolt will just work back and forth until it brakes.   

frame extentions:

if you run a gusset from the start of the  stock frame, all the way to the end of your extensions. basically like what you have already done, just bigger, all the way to the end. that will help.   maybe even run 2 of them close to the edges and cap it.   think of it like a door wedge on top of the extention, big end at the truck, small end at the stinger. 

and as far as everything being low, its called approach angle, the further away from the tire the "overhang" of the truck is , the more it will hang up on stuff. it will get to the rock before the tire has a chance to drive over it. and it being low makes that matter worse. the stock bumper may have been that low at stock height, but it was allot closer to the front tires.

think of it like this. if the stock bumper was 3 feet in front of the truck, what would happen if you tried to drive up a steep driveway?  now pull that bumper back in, even tho its the same height off the ground, the fact that its closer to the tires means it will not hit the steep driveway first.

hope this helps

-Lance