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Offline oh4mud

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beam axle conversion
« on: July 08, 2009, 01:51:02 PM »
i have a 91 5dr escudo i am putting toyota beam axles under it with a 5link susp i want enough height to put 33s under it without a bodylift.i just want to know what would be the best springs to use please
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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 09:42:22 AM »
5 link?

QA1 14" coils are popular.
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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 07:45:19 AM »
5 link? /quote]


I think He is talking about a four link with a panhard bar

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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 01:15:10 PM »
Well, I'm still learning my coil suspension setups... but I thought the point of a 4-link was to not need a panhard bar (like in a 3-link)  ???
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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 07:21:10 AM »
If the four link is not triangulated it will need a panhard (Track) bar! Not positive but I think the new Jeep's are 5 link!

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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 10:20:52 AM »
The link setup in a tracker - is that "triangulated"? Or, is the suspension cycle so short it doesn't need a panhard bar?
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
'83 SJ410: 31" Toyo M/T, SPOA, 1.3L
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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 01:22:40 PM »
I think most 4x4 that have a four link still have a track bar. My pathfinder has a triangulated four with a track bar in the rear,  as for the trakick I think there a three link but I haven't looked that close at one

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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2009, 05:39:14 PM »
The link setup in a tracker - is that "triangulated"? Or, is the suspension cycle so short it doesn't need a panhard bar?


On the back end of a tracker it actually uses a 3 link system in the rear.  The top bar is a single link in the center of the axle on a triangle setup instead of being properly triangulated.

If you want to look at designing a 4 link I recommend reading the following articles:

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/suspension/131_0306_four_link_suspension_part_1/index.html
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/suspension/131_0307_four_link_suspension_part_2/index.html

It goes over a lot of the basics.  I used it as a reference when building mine, then use a 4 link calculator from XTreme Off Road instead of having to do the calculations by hand.

For the front end most people use 3 link or 5 link designs because you need a panhard bar to deal with the steering.
96 Geo Tracker, x-SJ-410,  x-White Rabbit, x-Project Trouble
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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 08:23:59 AM »
It depends on which generation of the Tracker you're looking at.

Early ones (upto '98) have a three link where the top link is a "wishbone" that provides lateral location and so does not require a panhard rod, later models (99 and after) have a five link (four with panhard rod)
'98 SQ420 Grand Vitara
'05 JB420 Grand Vitara
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Re: beam axle conversion
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2009, 02:20:16 PM »
It depends on which generation of the Tracker you're looking at.

Early ones (upto '98) have a three link where the top link is a "wishbone" that provides lateral location and so does not require a panhard rod, later models (99 and after) have a five link (four with panhard rod)

HA!  Wishbone!  That is the word I was looking for.
96 Geo Tracker, x-SJ-410,  x-White Rabbit, x-Project Trouble
Crawlers NorthWest
x-Trouble Racing