Looking for both, because when you accomplish one, you accomplish the other, LOL
I used one of those flex neck video cameras to get a look at the inside of the collectors and they are similar to the Thourly, defenitely not a top end header, LOL. Also one item of concern to me is the fit and finish of the pipes to the mounting flange on the gasket side, they need to be welded and smoothed out a bit, I will post pics up later to show what I am referring to.