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Offline muddman

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power chips???
« on: November 17, 2010, 12:09:23 PM »
does anyone have any knowledge on these chips sold on ebay that plug into your ecm,is there really any gains?or worth the money?
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 01:50:15 PM »
The only " chips " that are any good are the ones you eat. All those gimmicky power adders are a total load of crap.
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 01:57:49 PM »
i kinda thought so,ive just installed a high flow cat and 2inch pipe with no muffler,its a 96 with 16v 1.6 where would i go next for some performance gains,cam maybe?
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »
There's always forced induction. ;)
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2010, 07:20:07 PM »
Basically it is a 22-cent resistor that "tricks" the ECU to run lean.

I have seen ebay units that sell for $69...

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Re: power chips???
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 09:42:43 PM »
ive been looking at the turbo option, is there a complete bolt on set up available,not sure about fabbing up manifolds and such but sure would like the extra punch >:D
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 04:00:24 PM »
No bolt on kits I'm aware of, a few of us have built our own though. Some have also done the V6 Suzuki swap with good results , either way is a bunch of work and not cheap, especially if you don't fab up your own parts. The extra power sure is worth the effort though, especially when you pull onto a freeway on ramp from a dead stop, or pull out and actually pass a slower vehicle. ;D
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 08:28:48 PM »
well i guess i better get my hands on some parts and get busy,im sure ill be in for some pointers,thanks for the input ;D
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 10:39:53 PM »
Get a T6, an intercooler from a WRX or a Corrado, a massive fuel pump, custom pipes, and then crank that puppy up to 24 lbs and hold on.  May as well run a 50 shot too.

Ok, seriously, if you go FI the first thing you need to do is beef up your bottom end.  

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Re: power chips???
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 04:36:18 AM »
Not necessarily z3ro, you can run modest amounts of boost ( 5/7 lbs) with very good results on mostly stock equipment if you have a 16v engine. A small turbo that spools quickly, decent intercooler, a WELL BUILT manifold running 5/6 lbs will net you about 40/50 more hp. More than enough to perk up your ride.  I've been running this setup going on 3 years and 40k miles with no problems or added stress to the engine. I've recently added a H2o/alcohol injection system to mine ( home built of course ) and now run closer to stock timing and a bit more boost with lower egt's. It can and has been done successfully. You just have to do the work. ;)
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2010, 06:27:14 AM »
ok,ive got the 16v motor,next im headed to pick and pull,is there any specific units i should be looking at for my turbo? i.e. saab volvo,vw subaru.thunderbird turbo coupe? ive also got a tune shop down the road maybe check to see what they may have?although id rather use my roughneck skills and do it hybrid stlye! ahh tuner shops out,not an option,goin to the junk yard now :D
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2010, 08:31:47 AM »
The only " chips " that are any good are the ones you eat. All those gimmicky power adders are a total load of crap.
Yup I posted on here sometime within the last year asking the same thing, because I thought it was a gimmick too and couldn't understand why they could be sold for profit...and everyone that responded pretty much said the same thing.  I've seen pictures of them that people took apart and it's just an empty black plastic box with nothing in it but a little resistor that costs, yup, less than a dollar.
Also, they use the same ad for their ebay listings, that say 50+ hp gain...but that number is probably the optimum gain from another car...seriously, you're not going to get 50hp out of an engine that puts out 85hp stock by just adding a "power chip."  I still can't believe people sell these things.
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2010, 09:07:28 AM »
Everyone knows the power isn't in the chip, it's in the stickers
that you put on your ride  ;) 

Any long time members should remember the sticker thread  :laugh:

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Re: power chips???
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2010, 12:22:37 PM »
well made it back from the pick n pull i only found one turbo unit on a 89 volvo it was bad but i think i can rebuild it with the right parts i can get manifold turbo and everything for50 bucks its a start i guess ;)
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Re: power chips???
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 05:06:29 AM »
There are ome good write up's on doing the turbo thing here in the forum, be sure to check them out. Happy boosting!

Oh, and Wild, I stuck one of those 3R racing stickers on mine and got 30 more HP! ( with a chip)
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