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Offline paps133

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rear end?????
« on: March 09, 2007, 06:32:29 AM »
newbie qustion sorry,  Which year had a 10 bolt rear end. Ive got a 1996 2 door 5 speed, i'm guessing it's a 12 bolt, will a 3rd from a the erlier 10 bolt fit in my 1996? What i'm thinking is swapping an older 10 bolt, in my current diff if it's possible. Any help is greatly appreciated, thankd ahead of time.

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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 07:05:24 AM »
I don't think a 10-bolt carrier will fit in a 12-bolt axle housing.

In fact, the ARB Air locker for 10-bolt vs 12 bolt is even a different model, so I guess there's a lot more different than just the number of holes.
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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 07:26:44 AM »
I've got some 5.89 for a 10 bolt, so i want to find a way to put them in. That being said, could i swap the entire rear axle from an older tracker with a 10 bolt rearend into my 1996?? Is this possible???? How would i identify a 10 bolf rearend without taking the rear diff apart, (i'm pretty sure the bone yard wouldn't let me take all there tracker apart ;D ;D. Thanks

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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 07:57:43 AM »
89 to 93 had the 10-bolt rear.
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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 08:05:20 AM »
Bob, I'm pretty sure a 10 bolt third will fit into a 12 bolt housing.

You can't swap carriers, but you can swap entire thirds. The issue is that with his 96 he just will have to find a way to bungee up his ABS line that ran down to his 12 bolt third.

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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 08:10:33 AM »
What do u mean bungee up the abs line, do u mean just fasten them down???

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 08:13:07 AM »
The 10 bolt rear won't have a connector or even a spot for one for your ABS. You have a line that runs down from the body that connects to the connector on your current 12 bolt rear third. Since you won't be able to use it, you'll have to "bungee it up" (bungee cord) or fasten it up in some other way.

You'll also get a persistent BRAKE light on the dash, unless you unplug the nifty ECU looking black box on your floorboard under the brake pedal.
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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 08:51:02 AM »
The 10 bolt rear won't have a connector or even a spot for one for your ABS. You have a line that runs down from the body that connects to the connector on your current 12 bolt rear third. Since you won't be able to use it, you'll have to "bungee it up" (bungee cord) or fasten it up in some other way.

You'll also get a persistent BRAKE light on the dash, unless you unplug the nifty ECU looking black box on your floorboard under the brake pedal.

ok, let me get this straigh them, just want to make sure i got this . I can use my 1996 axel and put in a 3rd from a 89-93 which had 10 bolt carrier in them??????? Only down fall is "bungee" the rear abs. Will i lose my front abs aswell???  Thanks so much. I'm going to the bone yard to get a 3rd out of a 89 -93.

Thanks so much to both of you now, i'm going to have 32 on my DD now.
thanks again, 
« Last Edit: March 09, 2007, 08:53:50 AM by paps133 »

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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 08:54:10 AM »
Your front doesn't have ABS. These things only had ABS in the rear.

So yes, the only thing you really have to worry about is the ABS cable.

(I've swapped 10 bolts into my 12 bolt rear that I had)
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 08:57:36 AM »
thank u so much, u made me so happy........ ;D ;D ;D

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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2007, 09:58:55 AM »
I swapped a 10 bolt carrier into my 12 bolt rear in order to fit my 5:83s. No ABS to worry about over here though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 10:38:46 AM »
What has me wondering, and scratching my head, is this:

When I put in my 5.83's, and ARB, I'm pretty sure I "lost" the "toothed ring" that drives the ABS pickup - but I MAY have reconnected the ABS cable.  That would mean that  the ABS would see the rear axle as "never turning", and it would kick in the ABS - wouldn't it?

I do NOT have a continuous BRAKE light, so I must have hooked the cable back up, but I really do NOT think I put the interrupter back in.  How curious.
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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 11:13:35 AM »
Maybe it's plugged in so it completes the circuit, so you don't get a BRAKE light, but since you don't have a toothed ring, it can't do anything?

 ???
Heather Galvin
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Re: rear end?????
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2007, 12:32:52 PM »
I got myself a 3rd from a 90 kick, for a case of beer. ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm having the best day ever, due to the help of a few members on this board.

Re: rear end?????
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2007, 03:22:40 PM »
So if i can put a 10 bolt rear in my 96 tracker where where would i find the 5.83's for the rear is the front the same?  I have a set for the front but the rear 12 bolt is gone. thanks for the input srry about asking a question on your thread