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Offline ed oorklep

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Is this a bad CV angle?
« on: May 19, 2005, 03:54:04 AM »
Here's a pic of my CV angle when it's fully extended, my front flex is currently very limited >:( due to limiting straps that came with my Pro Comp lift kit :(. I believe it will get much better if I remove it but I don't know if I'll be trashing CV's then, here's my current angle:

I think the struts are standard (they came with the kit but I doubt they're  OME) and there's a 2" strut spacer on top of 'm so it should be no problem but I want to ask you guys first before I do some more serious wheeling.
BTW the tyres aren't streight here so it might look somewhat worse then it is on the left side of the pic.
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2005, 04:18:05 AM »
I remember my procomp kit having little or no down travel on my Pro comp Kit and I still had to shorten the limiting strap to keep from blowing out CV's. I'll try and find a pic at home tonight of the CV angles on my 2" and 3" lift's.

But just looking, it does appear to be at close to max angles in your pic.

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Offline ed oorklep

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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2005, 04:31:56 AM »
Okay thanks, I'd like to see some other pics.
What would cause the little downtravel on this kit then ??? Maybe I could address that problem then. Could someone measure the diff drop brackets on a calmini 3" maybe they're longer ??? I guess you allready have seen this but this is on a ramp so the rest of the car isn't horizontal so the angle might look a bit worse because of that....
I'm allready looking at putting a Toy (IFS) front and rear axle under it but have to find someone to fab up a lot of stuff and help me with it over here ;)
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2005, 07:40:06 AM »
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On a side note, it looks like your idler arm is bent up... Not sure though... Anyone else think so?

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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2005, 10:29:01 AM »
Hmmm, that'd suck I'll take a closer pic of that tomorrow so you can see  ;) An upgrade of that was planned too  ;D
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2005, 04:24:38 PM »
you guys that have like 4 inch suspensions lifts how did you get rid of the cv angle problem
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2005, 09:17:20 AM »
Eric, I snapped some pics of the Idler arm:


doesn't look bent to me, but I'm not sure about the stock form of it  ;)
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2005, 11:06:27 AM »
The angle looks better then what I have been running for years without any breakages.  I had inverted top mounts (about 40mm more down) without lowering the diff.  I have 31" muddies so they may be kinder on the CV's.

Any chance of getting some pics of the control arm brackets?  It looks like you have camber adjusters in the mounting bracket of the control arms?  Do they stay adjusted?

BTW, your idler arm looks straight.  :)
« Last Edit: May 24, 2005, 11:07:13 AM by Fity »

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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2005, 12:06:28 PM »
yes, i think they are camber adjusters on the new a arm brackets.

i was thinking about just putting these camber adjusters on the bottom hole of my struts. they have, or should have a lot of adjustment.

and also puts the track back to normal.

and could you get some more pics of the brackets please, and the diff drop brackets too, thanks
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2005, 11:47:30 PM »
Jup the camber adjustment bolts are in the brackets, I'll snap you some close up pic's and put them on asap  ;)
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2005, 04:39:09 AM »
Here they are:
Front A-arm lowering bracket:

Passenger (Right) side diff bracket:

Drivers side diff bracket (on it's side but if you turn your head that wouldn't be a problem  ;D)

Rear A-arm lowering bracket viewed from the front.

Rear A-arm bracket from the back

Front A-arm bracket from the front.

If there are any more q's I'd be happy to answer them  ;D
It doesn't look like it but the camber bolts stay adjusted, but they don't adjust enough so I might skip them and put some in the struts too  ;)
« Last Edit: May 25, 2005, 04:41:54 AM by ed-oorklep »
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ARB Bull Bar.
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2005, 11:07:40 AM »
thanks heaps for that ben. its got me thinking more about what i can/want to do.
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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2005, 01:01:13 PM »
Those pics have answered a lot of questions for me.  I have only ever seen one Pro Comp kit many years ago and I have always thought it was reasnonly well built, but I couldn't remember it that well.  I think I may make something similar to lower the control arms.  I made some Diff lowering brackets last week, so now to lift the front more.  :)

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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2005, 01:12:19 PM »
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 I made some Diff lowering brackets last week, so now to lift the front more.  :)

got pics?

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Re: Is this a bad CV angle?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2005, 01:13:31 PM »
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 I made some Diff lowering brackets last week, so now to lift the front more.  :)


fity, can you get pics of this for us please? very interested in how you made them and out of what, and just saw that 1bigtracker beat me to the Q!

thanks
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